How Much Leftist Ideology Has Corrupted Nursing? - page 9

I'm heading into my BScN in September, and wondering how much leftist nonsense will be in my program? Should I expect to see a lot of it, or very little? Considering it's a BSc I'm hoping very... Read More

  1. by   Tetra
    Quote from No Stars In My Eyes
    Well then, be about your business.
    I did say "close" to quitting. What kind of a troll would I be if I made it easy?
  2. by   No Stars In My Eyes
    Quote from Tetra
    I did say "close" to quitting. What kind of a troll would I be if I made it easy?
    I have an unsubscribe button. *poof
  3. by   macawake
    Quote from Tetra
    I actually appreciate your response, just so you know. I think we must live in two different worlds. Which is why we don't understand each other.
    Different continents for sure, same world though. However, I'm pretty sure it's not the reason we keep getting out wires crossed.

    Quote from Tetra
    I'm going to guess you don't have a stat for your claim it's 1%, and it's actually based upon your experience, like myself.

    You really think identity politics holds only 1% of the population, you really think it's "fringe"? This isn't rhetorical, I'm actually curious.
    You've misunderstood what I was saying. It's possible I wasn't being very clear. I wasn't making a claim. The 1% was a random number, one I just plucked out of thin air. It could just as easily have been: 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375 10582 09749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679821 48086513282306 647093844609550582231725359408128481% or the same number as the molecules present in a homeopathic remedy diluted to 30C (we're talking some really potent stuff ) . I just though that was too cumbersome to type I was asking you to define what it is you regard as the "current left".

    You've made a rather extreme claim regarding the left, and if you want me to accept that it's a valid claim, you need to define what the left is and show what percentage of the left actually fit your definition. I'm reasonably certain it's not 100% (I only need to be aware of a single "leftist" person who doesn't fit your definition to refute the 100%=all.....) and considering the extreme standard that you've labeled them with, logically the number will be small.

    Just to remind you, this is how you've defined the left:

    Quote from Tetra
    If you go back to my post explaining postmodernism, you'll see that I point out that the "current" left now disregards the entire notion of truth... they believe fundamentally that "all truth is relative", as it's subjective and not objective.

    You'll hear people say things like "speak your truth" (as though truth is subjective)...
    Even though this isn't a diagnosis that you'll find in the DSM-5, I'm confident that a person who genuinely believes that ALL truth is relative, is stark raving bonkers. Despite that, it's a definition you want us to accept as an accurate description for the left.

    A person who thinks ALL truth is relative won't accept that:

    * If you stick your bare hand into a pot of boiling water and hold it there for five minutes, you will sustain injury to that hand.

    Wouldn't reject:

    * the claim that Newton's law of universal gravitation only is in effect on Thursdays, meaning that on Thursdays jumping out of a tenth story window would have the expected result, but for the rest of the week jumping out of that tenth story window might propel you into orbit around one of Jupiter's moons.

    They would be completely onboard with the claim that:

    * The sun sets in the east, in the west, to the north or south.. Well, any heading of the compass really... It's all relative

    So no, I wasn't claiming that 1% believe this crap, I was ASKING you to provide the scientific data that shows the prevalence of this type of delusional beliefs in the group you label the current left. So I want to know what percentage of n believes this and I want to know the sample size itself. n equals what??

    Quote from No Stars In My Eyes
    well, this teacher would put one index finger in her nose and the other one in her ear and gaze blankly up at the ceiling... What I'm trying to say here is that it would make a great emoji...
    I love it

    Quote from No Stars In My Eyes
    and PS to macawake, if I ever get into the kind of trouble that requires a courtroom and lawyer, will you take 2nd seat and be our consultant? If I could "Like" your post five-hundred times, I would do so...
    Aaaw.. I'd be honored to , but let's hope it never comes to that.

    It just dawned on me... Considering I'm a nurse anesthetist who seems to believe that a "brainectomy" is an actual surgical procedure (not entirely confidence inspiring...), I should probably quit my day job... And I do have fond memories of court, but there are a few defense attorneys who would beg to differ... I think they regarded me a the bane of their existences...

    Quote from Tetra
    Like I said, I'm fairly close to rage quitting...
    You're the one who cranked up the heat in this here kitchen... Now, you're saying you can't take it?

    Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
    Because their words had forked no lightning they
    Do not go gentle into that good night.

    Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
    Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
    Rage, rage against the dying of the light.

    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dylan Thomas
  4. by   cammiebear3
    Wow! Once you graduate, I hope your charting isn't as ambiguous as everything you've said here.
  5. by   Phil-on-a-bike
    Greetings from the People's Republic of Great Britain!

    You are right to be cautious, Comrade - only this morning I had to denounce our Data Manager for showing insufficient enthusiasm during our daily mandatory singing of 'The Internationale'!

    (I suspect him of Anarcho-Syndicalist counter-revolutionary sympathies... also, I was behind on my quota of denunciations.)

    Can't stop; it's nearly lunchtime and I have to join the queue for beetroot.

    Hasta la victoria siempre!
  6. by   1056chris
    Really why are you worried about that. I never had any lefty, righty problems in nursing school. Unless you took some political electives you shouldn t have any problems. Keep in mind one thing. When you get your license you are going to take care of all kinds of people who have all kinds of views, a lot of them you might not like to hear. If you can be more objective you will probably do ok.
  7. by   feelix
    Yup! There is a lot of 'leftist nonsense' in nursing. Try digging coal instead.
  8. by   feelix
    Quote from Tetra
    Jeepers, I was just wondering how much of my program will be in the humanities. I have taken a few courses in the past that seemed to be taught presupposing a postmodern ideology. I pretty much only have an interest in science.
    Nursing is as much Humanities as it is Science. You will probably never look down a microscope your entire career, but you will meet people whose newborns are being adopted out, children who are arguing about whether to discontinue life support on dad or not, raped women trying to get rid of unwanted pregnancies, a same sex couple on the delivery of their first baby, a homeless man brought in by the police due to a schizophrenic crisis, an undocumented immigrant who has typhus fever and no health insurance. There will be big decisions to be made and most (except for court ordered treatment) will be made by the patient, not the RN. Think before what you are getting into.
  9. by   djh123
    First you say 'leftist nonsense' in a very derogatory tone, then you say 'geez, I was just asking if there were any humanities courses'. I ain't gonna say any more...
  10. by   TriciaJ
    While reading this thread Tetra, I was reminded of a lecture I attended in nursing school in Saskatchewan in 1981. The speaker started out by saying "It's a shame we have to incarcerate our criminals because we can't learn to love them unconditionally!" I have no idea what was said in the rest of the lecture, because I just stopped listening. So what you're referring to is not all that new.

    I think the answer to your overall question is "Yes." If your question was so out-to-lunch then people should have rolled their eyes and gone about their day. Maybe a lot of people did. But if you were trolling, you've obviously succeeded because you have triggered some palpable rage. That should tell you what you need to know right there.

    I believe if you're already good at thinking for yourself, you should be able to navigate nursing school no matter what type of slant they put on things. You will be able to sift the wheat from the chaff and work toward a goal of providing science-based, compassionate care to whomever needs it. You may have to keep a lot of your views to yourself, because "tolerant" people don't always tolerate differing viewpoints.

    Good luck to you.
  11. by   No Stars In My Eyes
    Scrolled past this thread's title on my way elsewhere. I stopped reading it and unsubscribed some time ago. But the title caught my eye and I thought, "How Much Nursing Ideology Has Corrupted the Leftists?" Oooooh.

    Yeah, I know; ha-ha-and ho-hum.