How Much Leftist Ideology Has Corrupted Nursing? - page 3

I'm heading into my BScN in September, and wondering how much leftist nonsense will be in my program? Should I expect to see a lot of it, or very little? Considering it's a BSc I'm hoping very... Read More

  1. by   Pepper The Cat
    Quote from Tetra
    Love learning about people, so long as it's not taught from a leftist perspective. If the humanities courses I have taught to me are not presupposing leftist ideology, I'm game.
    So, as long as you agree with what you are taught that is OK. But learning something from outside your comfort zone us wrong. You don't have to agree with every theory or opinion out there, but it never hurts to learn that others think differently.
  2. by   FolksBtrippin
    Quote from Tetra
    I have literally no idea what you're talking about. I'm gonna guess American politics? I'm Canadian just for the record.
    So you read a book and now you are applying it to everything you see.

    That's not a scientific way to think.
  3. by   JKL33
    I think leftists and rightists are both doing a phenomenal job at removing true compassion and pretty much all common sense from anything related to patient care, each for their own political purposes. So you should be fine.

    I can't imagine how anyone can pick a side these days, but that's just me.
  4. by   Lil Nel
    I am completely dumbfounded by this thread. The OP equates the humanities with leftist ideology, and only has an interest in science courses? And the OP is seeking to become a nurse?

    And somehow, the OP doesn't equate science with any kind of ideology, whether left or right.

    None of this makes any sense to me!
  5. by   Tetra
    Quote from FolksBtrippin
    So you read a book and now you are applying it to everything you see.

    That's not a scientific way to think.
    No, I was asked how the leftist ideology is tied to postmodernism... I pointed to a book which outlines this position. Should I have just not answered the question?
  6. by   Tetra
    Quote from Lil Nel
    I am completely dumbfounded by this thread. The OP equates the humanities with leftist ideology, and only has an interest in science courses? And the OP is seeking to become a nurse?

    And somehow, the OP doesn't equate science with any kind of ideology, whether left or right.

    None of this makes any sense to me!
    I'm suggesting the humanities have been influenced by leftist ideology.

    I don't believe science holds a political position. It's not like the gravitational constant is leftist. lol
  7. by   CelticGoddess
    Quote from Tetra
    I wrote "jeepers" simply because it's a common word in my vocabulary...

    My comment was very specific... leftist ideology is postmodern, postmodernism rejects science, the humanities in my experience presuppose postmodernism. This is the issue. I like learning about people and culture, so long as the classes don't presuppose leftist ideology.

    Personally I'm fairly "center" in my political outlook.
    No, your comment wasn't clear and I am finding all your responses to be exasperating. You are still being divisive, and you are bringing up supposed facts which aren't accurate. What exactly is a leftist ideology? I'm still trying to figure that out.

    BTW: Post modernism occurs on both sides of the political spectrum. It's not a leftist ideology alone.
  8. by   MunoRN
    You haven't really explained your initial claim (in the form of a question). Are you referring to "leftist" ideology or liberal ideology? What is it about either of those ideologies you feel is "corrupting" nursing, in other words, how are they keeping nursing from meeting it's core standards and principles.
  9. by   Lil Nel
    Wow. Where I live, some aspects of science are highly political. For example, the theory of evolution has been rejected by the right. An hour from where I live there is a giant replica of Noah's Ark because folks on the right don't believe in the scientific theory of evolution.

    Where did you get the idea that science is neutral, but the humanities are leftist? LOL!
  10. by   Tetra
    Quote from MunoRN
    You haven't really explained your initial claim (in the form of a question). Are you referring to "leftist" ideology or liberal ideology? What is it about either of those ideologies you feel is "corrupting" nursing, in other words, how are they keeping nursing from meeting it's core standards and principles.
    I suppose it would depend if you think (for example) social "justice" and health care intersect. The question was regarding my schooling as well.

    I think it would be hard for me to distill the entire ideology down to something very specific, which is why I'm avoiding that. Simply, the left is postmodern and neo-marxist... and it has no business being taught in a BScN program.
  11. by   Tetra
    Quote from Lil Nel
    Wow. Where I live, some aspects of science are highly political. For example, the theory of evolution has been rejected by the right. An hour from where I live there is a giant replica of Noah's Ark because folks on the right don't believe in the scientific theory of evolution.

    Where did you get the idea that science is neutral, but the humanities are leftist? LOL!
    I would agree that scientific theories and facts have people across the political spectrum, who would agree or disagree with them. That's different than suggesting a scientific fact itself has a political lean... which it doesn't. That's all I was suggesting above.
  12. by   Tetra
    Quote from JKL33
    I think leftists and rightists are both doing a phenomenal job at removing true compassion and pretty much all common sense from anything related to patient care, each for their own political purposes. So you should be fine.

    I can't imagine how anyone can pick a side these days, but that's just me.
    Thanks for your response!

    I truly believe if the humanities are the electives, a "side" will be expressed.
  13. by   macawake
    Quote from Tetra
    My comment was very specific... leftist ideology is postmodern, postmodernism rejects science, the humanities in my experience presuppose postmodernism. This is the issue.
    Is this your version of the scientific method? In your experience... Really?

    As far as I can tell, you have applied some weird circular, transitive relation to ultimately prove that leftist ideology rejects science. You haven't provided any conclusive evidence that leftist ideology is "postmodern". It logically follows that you haven't been able to prove that leftist ideology is any more "postmodern" than any other random ideology. And as we've already covered, you haven't proven that humanities presupposes postmodernism (your experience = subjective, anecdotal).

    I find it highly amusing that you think that it's "leftist" to reject science. In MY experience people of all or of no particular political persuasion are quite capable of rejecting science. You might have noticed that south of your border they elected a (non-leftist) President who will likely continue to believe that global warming is a Chinese hoax even as freaking Greenland floods the basement of Trump Tower

    I suppose it would depend if you think (for example) social "justice" and health care intersect. The question was regarding my schooling as well.
    What on earth is social "justice"? Do you think it and healthcare intersect? If yes, why? If no, why not? Should they intersect?

    It would be tremendously helpful if you could clarify what the criteria required to "corrupt" nursing are? At what point is nursing in your opinion "corrupted"? I genuinely don't understand what you're saying.

    I think it would be hard for me to distill the entire ideology down to something very specific, which is why I'm avoiding that. Simply, the left is postmodern and neo-marxist... and it has no business being taught in a BScN program.
    Neo-marxist??? Now I'm getting the feeling that you're just tossing random terms out there. I have no problems at all believing that you're having trouble distilling the ideology you're referring to into something specific. I'm not even sure it can be done. Instead of trying to just label things, how about you try to give concrete examples of things that you wouldn't like to see in nursing school? What is it specifically that you object to? And please, nooo more -isms

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