Has Anyone Seen This List????

  1. Our U. S. government keeps mentioning this 'list' of countries that support their desire to war with Iraq. I've been searching news sites, trying to find out who is on this list. I heard some government guy last week said there were more than eight countries and growing every day.

    I know about Britain, Italy, and Spain. Who else? Why do I get the feeling the rest are countries like Granada, Liechenstein, Monaco, etc.????

    Or worse yet, they are breaking down Britain into: England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Australia, Canada, New Zealand.....to "pad" their list.:imbar PLEASE SEE MY CORRECTION POSTED BELOW:imbar

    I don't want a war. Our shrub of a leader has already shown he pretty much plans to go to war whether we like it or not.

    I have to admit, I've got to see just how low and pathetic our leaders can be. So who is on the "list"? Does anyone know?
    Last edit by kavi on Jan 31, '03
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  3. by   ayemmeff
    Originally posted by kavi
    Or worse yet, they are breaking down Britain into: England, Ireland, Scotland, Wales, Australia, Canada, New Zealand.....to "pad" their list.
    You may want to edit this before any one from Ireland, Canada,Australia or New Zealand reads it ,Sweetie,it may upset some of them.

    Also,fyi,Britain is made up of England,Scotland and Wales. The United Kingdom is those three countries and Northern Ireland.
    Last edit by ayemmeff on Jan 31, '03
  4. by   Stargazer
    From an article I posted on another thread:

    Meantime, the US and UK efforts to show that they are not alone in their position against Iraq have produced a declaration by some European countries. The declaration, interestingly, includes the new members of the Nato alliance, in what some see as a showing soliderity, and a pay-off for their inclusion into Nato.The Washington Post reported also, that "Prime Minister Jose Maria Aznar of Spain and the British prime minister, Tony Blair, led the drive for the declaration, which was also signed by Italy, Denmark, Portugal, Poland, Hungary and the Czech Republic, but pointedly excluded France and Germany, two of the countries that have expressed the strongest reservations about military action. European Union officials were also not consulted, and the current EU president, Prime Minister Costas Simitis of Greece, issued a statement strongly criticizing the declaration."
  5. by   ziggyRn
    Respectfully...Canada is just a bit north of Michigan and NZ is way down south of you... in the Pacific.
    Ziggy
  6. by   kavi
    First, let me say how sorry I am. I thought that Canada, Australia, and New Zealand were still tied to Britain because they still had Queen Elizabeth II as their Queen.

    And I did mean Northern Ireland, although I certainly should have said it that way. I do know better. Thank you for the gentle reminder!
    I am really sorry for my mistake. And here I thought I kept up on these things!!!!!!!
    :imbar :imbar :imbar
    And thank you Stargazer. I must have missed that post.:imbar
    Last edit by kavi on Feb 1, '03
  7. by   2ndCareerRN
    Kavi,

    You have shown you are woefully lacking in Geography.

    You grasp of british royal history is just as bad. This will tell you a little bit about Queen Elizabeth I.

    http://www.britannia.com/history/monarchs/mon45.html

    Why should anything you have to say be taken with a shred of reliability or truth. You obviously do not research your posts prior to posting.

    For all I know you get your info from what website or forum you visited last, not exactly the most reliable in information.

    I would suggest you do your own homework and attempt to form your own opinions before coming onto an open forum and making a fool of yourself.

    As always, it is just my opinion. Take or leave it.

    bob
  8. by   ayemmeff
    Just being nosey,2ndCareer,but where are you from? If you don't mind telling?

    Pm if you prefer not to shout it out.
  9. by   passing thru
    Personally, I don't think 2nd career RN will make the Allnurses' "Bad Girl" list.
    And , Kavi, your point is well taken. Even with Stargazers' post, which she was kind enough to share, take a look at those countries. Portugal? (not much bigger than Massachussetts), Denmark (ditto), Poland, Czech Republic, and Hungary...aren't these all former Communist bloc countries that we SUPPORT? Yes, they will "go along". They aren't so stupid as to look their gift horse in the mouth.
    Primarily, it is the countries who are not dependent on our foreign aid in order to survive who are independent and speaking their minds.
    The U.S. sent Powell politicking to all these little countries and to address NATO . It was us, (as usual,) who was instrumental in getting these countries admitted. It's just politics.
    Kava, you are right on target.
    Your message was right on. The list has been "padded".
    Countries who have the manpower to send to Iraq and $$$ to finance a war-- to be our equals-- our allies-- have said, "no thanks". France, Russia, China, Germany, India = "no thanks"
    We have promised Turkey 11 billion $, and they still HAVE NOT come aboard.
    It is going to be a war fought -for the most part-by American men and women. We all know this. England & the other countries so far have committed a small percentage. I read yesterday we have 300,000 men and women in the region, with more on the way.
    Remember that figure when you read about how many Canadians, Australians , and Brits are going. I expect the number of Americans will double (if we have that many in our combined armed forces.) Hope Korea or some other country doesn't decide to attack us while we have out entire armed forces stuck up in Kuwait and Afghanistan...since it takes weeks to move them to a new site. Wouldn't it be a hoot if Pakistan or Korea lobbed a "little nuclear device" on California?
    Where's our military strategists? Good question, Kavi.
  10. by   ayemmeff
    Originally posted by passing thru
    England & the other countries so far have committed a small percentage.

    It's BRITAIN!!!!!not "England"(see above misunderstading) ,and we are roughly the size of Oregon,so don't bytch about the "small percentage"--our men are just as precious to us,as yours are to you.

    BTW,just in case the American press isn't reporting it,Britain isn't entirely,wholeheartedly behind Blair.
    Last edit by ayemmeff on Jan 31, '03
  11. by   2ndCareerRN
    Wouldn't it be a hoot if Pakistan or Korea lobbed a "little nuclear device" on California?
    Presently neither one of those countries have the capability to deliver your "little nuclear device" reliably over the distance involved.

    Hopefully the people that would suffer from that event are not related to you.

    A much easier way to deliver the weapon is to carry it across our borders, much easier than you imagine.

    bob
    Last edit by 2ndCareerRN on Jan 31, '03
  12. by   SharonH, RN
    Originally posted by passing thru
    Wouldn't it be a hoot if Pakistan or Korea lobbed a "little nuclear device" on California?

    Ummm....no. No it wouldn't be a "hoot".
  13. by   SharonH, RN
    Originally posted by ayemmeff
    It's BRITAIN!!!!!not "England"(see above misunderstading) ,and we are roughly the size of Oregon,so don't bytch about the "small percentage"--our men are just as precious to us,as yours are to you.

    BTW,just in case the American press isn't reporting it,Britain isn't entirely,wholeheartedly behind Blair.

    As a matter of fact, the mainstream American press is NOT reporting it. In fact, they are not even accurately reporting how large American resistance to this war. However, I have read how fiercely many Brits are resisting this war, and it is to my great relief. In fact, I read a great editorial about it on Commondreams.org. Check this out:


    Common Dreams
  14. by   rncountry
    NPR is doing a fantastic job of reporting what the rest of the world, particularly British citizens are reporting.
    Now those Brits or others can correct me if I am wrong, but is not Canada, Australia, New Zealand part of the commonwealth? I mean this is the same way as the American Episcopal Church is part of the Anglican communion. Obviously each country has it's own gov't etc... but it was my understanding that there remains strong ties between the countries beyond allies. Perhaps I have not caught up with the times, because old history is more my thing.
    And I just have to say this. 2ndcareerRN, while you may not agree politically, I find it offensive when anyone takes it upon themselves to call another a fool. I find it much more useful to at least attempt to educate someone who may not know or understand something, then to rip them a new one. I believe Kavi said sorry. And I personally, don't know why it was necessary to be quite so nasty.

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