Grammar grammer

  1. I just got done reading a thread in which the poster was being criticized for their grammar, capitalization, and spelling. Brings back a thought. Did you hear that there is going to be another category in the SATs for college? There is going to be a new "Grammar" section. There have been too many near-perfect and perfect scores. They decided another category needed to be added. What do you think?
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  3. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    Well that ought to make the grammar and spelling police happy.
  4. by   Nikki730
    Do they still have that cruddy "Test of Standard Written English"? Can't they just use THAT to bring people's score down? I did really poorly on that and English is my only language. Maybe I accidently skipped a page without knowing it. I can tell myself that! :chuckle
  5. by   ayndim
    Quote from Audreyfay
    I just got done reading a thread in which the poster was being criticized for their grammar, capitalization, and spelling. Brings back a thought. Did you hear that there is going to be another category in the SATs for college? There is going to be a new "Grammar" section. There have been too many near-perfect and perfect scores. They decided another category needed to be added. What do you think?
    I think it is necessary. I will admit that my grammar and spelling are not always perfect. I see people with grammar and spelling that are horrible and it makes me cringe. You wonder how they got out of high school or passed English 1 and 2. It makes a bad impression. I think a better idea would be to make students do papers without spell check or the grammar check. That is when you would see an improvement.

    However, I don't think this board is the place to criticize spelling and grammar. Many of us have worked or studied many hours and are reading and responding to posts without the benefit of sleep. We are also just trying to unwind so that we can get some much needed sleep. Right now I should be doing Statistics homework and my brain is completely fried. I don't want to worry about grammar and spelling. I will do that when I do my Biology essay in a few hours.
  6. by   TiffyRN
    I would have done well back in the day. I used to be great at grammer. The school I graduated from emphasized learning grammer more than writing. This was a real disadvantage in college. I could have used much more training in writing. I did do quite well on that old Test of Standard Written English.
  7. by   caroladybelle
    Quote from Audreyfay
    I just got done reading a thread in which the poster was being criticized for their grammar, capitalization, and spelling. Brings back a thought. Did you hear that there is going to be another category in the SATs for college? There is going to be a new "Grammar" section. There have been too many near-perfect and perfect scores. They decided another category needed to be added. What do you think?
    I feel that it is a good thing.

    Sorry to play the Devil's advocate, but if nurses (and MDs) are to be considered professionals, they need to be competent in basic grammar.

    I generally don't fuss if there are some errors, but some posts are so incredibly error laden, it makes the post unreadable. When you have posts about the value of a BSN, professionalism in Nursing, complaints about "mean" instructors not passing students, etc., and the grammar/spelling is atrocious, I get an urge to give a "Come to reality" speech.

    What is wrong with expecting "professional" nurses to be competent in what should be elementary/junior high school writing?
  8. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    It's one thing if there's a paragraph full of words that are not spelled right or whatever, but some people can get so anal about people that forgot to hit the space bar, or two letters getting switched around.
  9. by   eltrip
    I believe that the grammar test is indeed needed. I also agree with Caroladybelle that professionals need "to be competent in what should be elementary/junior high school writing."

    Poor grammar & spelling leads to miscommunication. If we wish to communicate our thoughts then we need to be able to use our primary language correctly. Otherwise we risk being alone in our thoughts, unable to communicate with another except by grunting & body language (yes a bit of hyperbole, I will admit).
  10. by   Havin' A Party!
    Quote from TiffyRN
    ... I used to be great at grammer...
    Funnee!
  11. by   Havin' A Party!
    Quote from eltrip
    I believe that the grammar test is indeed needed. I also agree with Caroladybelle that professionals need "to be competent in what should be elementary/junior high school writing."

    Poor grammar & spelling leads to miscommunication...
    Agree.

    Also wastes time. Have read things that take significantly longer to wade through because of the grammatical errors present. Can be pure drudgery at times.

    And folks, think we not only wanna be competent, but also appear that way in our writings. Sometimes that's all others will have to judge us by.
  12. by   IMustBeCrazy
    As for professional competency, I would much rather receive an order that I can READ (i.e. legible handwriting) rather than nitpicking it for grammar. That one action would save a lot of time and hassle.

    That said, I think people need to really get in tune with how schools, especially elementary schools, are teaching our kids. And by today, I am referring to the last 2 decades.

    Case in point, my 6th grade niece turns in papers with massive spelling and grammar errors in ENGLISH class, and receives them back with NO corrections, red marks etc. Why, you ask? Because they are more concerned with kids developing a writing 'voice' nowdays rather than focusing on that pesky detail we know as grammar and spelling. Now, before you break out the acid pens, YES I do believe parents have a role in teaching their children as well. But since the grade is given by the TEACHER and not the parent, therein lies the 'path of least resistance'.

    Please don't be so quick to penalize those younger folks that are really just products of some goofy educratic experiment gone awry. If you want to effect change, step up to the local school boards and let them know that 'garbage in' equals 'garbage out'.
  13. by   suzanne4
    We are not talking about children but professional nurses..............or at least I hope that they are or will be.

    What you say and write reflects on you, no matter what you think.
    I remember years ago when a certain manager had terrible spelling skills and was forever posting memos all over. We actually had contests to see who could find the most errors the quickest. We didn't pay attention to the actual memo until afterwards. Of course, spell checker wasn't available then... but it has always remained in my mind.

    Sure I type very fast some times and will make a quick error, but not repeatedly all thru a posting. And the posts that use no punctuation at all, just one huge sentence. Yuch........ or that even capitalize the first letter of each word................ :uhoh21:

    sorry but I wasn't the one that started this post................
  14. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from suzanne4
    We are not talking about children but professional nurses..............or at least I hope that they are or will be.

    What you say and write reflects on you, no matter what you think.
    I remember years ago when a certain manager had terrible spelling skills and was forever posting memos all over. We actually had contests to see who could find the most errors the quickest. We didn't pay attention to the actual memo until afterwards. Of course, spell checker wasn't available then... but it has always remained in my mind.

    Sure I type very fast some times and will make a quick error, but not repeatedly all thru a posting. And the posts that use no punctuation at all, just one huge sentence. Yuch........ or that even capitalize the first letter of each word................ :uhoh21:

    sorry but I wasn't the one that started this post................
    oh puhleeaassee. or is it oh puhlease? hmmm. or... oh PULHEASE? no. uhhmm, OH puhleaase....nope, that's not it. dang, this is hard....OH PULLEASEE!!!.....

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