Good Tuesday Morning 5/25/04

  1. Morning everyone. Here's the thread and I'll post my little ditty in a minute!
  2. 79 Comments

  3. by   Tweety
    Thanks. Now I'm going to be singing that old song "A little ditty...about Jack and Diane...two American kids growing up in the heartland..."

    Have a great day. Been up all night and fixin' to go to sleep.
  4. by   Energizer Bunny
    Okay, morning everyone. Nothing real good about it right now. I am thinking that I might not be on here any longer. I need to see if I can even manage school at this point. It was brought up to me on another thread that I really don't have any support and I don't think school is feasible in this situation. AT least, not the nursing program. No matter how much I want it, I don't know if it's even doable. Maybe I am better off trying to go get a business degree or something that I will hate just so that I can get through and get a job. I am so sad right now that I am crying and I couldn't fall asleep last night. I don't know what to do. Now, I feel like a failure already because I am considering not going, what would I do if something happened and I wasn't able to finish?

    I'm sorry this is all I really have to say today.

  5. by   laughingfairy
    oh Kim...first of all your welcome here no matter what you do.

    second my mother went to school in did her clinicals in the evening when she was working from a LPN to ADN. She worked full time, had no support to speak of, 4 children between the ages of 6 and 12 when she started, didn't have a day off for four years, had one child with learning disabilities and another who had some pretty profound emotional issues. She did it because she was determined, it was what she loved to do, and it was what she needed to do for us her children.

    Don't let anyone tell you that you can't. I don't know what your exact plans are but you seem to be a bright articulate woman and I believe you can do it. Because more than anything else I sense that you care and are determined!!!

    There is my 2 cents for what it is worth.
  6. by   Energizer Bunny
    laughingfairy...thank you. I really appreciate it. I was so determined that I could make this work and then I sat down yesterday to study some old A & P stuff and the kids wouldn't leave me alone no matter what I did.

    Then, I had someone really point out the fact that I don't have support to help me out. I literally cried myself to sleep. I know that this thread is the only place that I can post my fears fairly safely, so that's why I put it here....

    guys, please feel free to discuss other things and I'll jump in when I am in a better place.
  7. by   walterrn
    A spectacular Tuesday morning to all.

    Miss Kim.......I've only been around a couple of months, but it seems to me that if you need support, this is an ideal place to get it. People helping people on a variety of subjects from health, childrearing, school stuff, good stuff , sad stuff and lots of doubt :uhoh21: I don't know your situation, but let me tell you mine.

    Some years back, I was diagnosed withh a seizure d/o. My PCP said it would be a good idea to change my profession (painting contactor - $75K/yr) due to the fact that the noxious fumes may be a contributing factor to why I developed seizures. I could also be the drugs and etoh finally catching up with me, although, at that point, I had one year clean and sober.

    So after talking with my wife, we decided that I should look for something different to make my income. I found a psychiatric-technician (PT) job that paid me a whopping $7.00/hr (that's a whopping $14K a year), hmmm, might be using the word "whopping" a bit much.

    So here I am. with a complete change in lifestyle, financial lifestyle. I looked around the job site and saw what the nurses were doing. I thought to myself, "Heck, I do everything the nurses do, except give meds, and they make three times the amount of money? Something aint right."

    So I set myself a goal and a dead line. To become a nurse within 5 yrs. Now that's actually giving myself some leeway, since I am only an ADN. (Yes, yes, my fellow ADNs, we do a good job and we're really nurses after all :chuckle .

    So it's off to school I go, while continuing to work full time as a PT. Five years later, I take my Boards. I am still in school, now working toward my BSN and plan to get my MSN as well, even though I'm not a "Spring Chicken" anymore. Heck, when I graduated from nursing school I was 40; was'nt much of a "Spring Chicken" then either :chuckle .

    So, the moral of this little story? If you want something bad enuff, you'll go to any lengths to get it. You'll work full time and school part time. So what if you don't have a life in the interum. Your life will be future set. Oh, and I was wrong.........nurses actually do a little more than just pass meds.

    Miss Kim's "question and thought for the day": Has there been something in your life that you have wanted more than anything (job, car, man, woman, house, lifestyle) and have been willing to do anything to get it and how did you get it?

    And by the way, I caught one measly little small mouth bass and one major sunburn on my fishing excursion. That's why I didnt post yesterday....too sun sick to post.

    Walter the Nurse
  8. by   Energizer Bunny
    Walter...thank you so much for putting your experience here and for your kind words. You all are so great here and I'm crying yet again. Whew...can ya'll say "hormones"?

    For the question...I do want this that badly. I am so afraid of what is going to happen with my kids and how to manage it all without support to help take care of them, etc. I am going to have to work it all out, but I am terrified!

    Thank you again Walter....I so appreciate all of you!
  9. by   Energizer Bunny
    It was suggested to me by a wise man (thanks Walter) that maybe I should type up my whole situation and do some brainstorming with all of you. I feel fairly safe on this forum so this really is the perfect place to do it.

    Some of this some of you know and some you don't, so please bear with me as I try to explain the whole situation to everyone here:

    I have three little ones, Trey is four, Piper is two and Bryce is 7 months. My dh, Bryan, works at Home Depot in kitchen design and is also taking online courses with the National Kitchen and Bath Association (NKBA) to become a nationally certified designer. (this means much more money and better opportunities) He was in management at Home Depot but is much happier after stepping back down to kitchen design.

    Trey will be in kindergarten in the fall. Piper and Bryce will be going to the daycare for the college as far as I know right now. In fact, I have to call them today to see if they have determined if they have spots for them or not. I am working on applying for government aid for the childcare, otherwise it would cost me $200 a week just for it and there is NO WAY we could manage that. Though, student loans and grants might help out with some of it. My biggest problems right now are this: Trey's school doesn't start until after 8 am and usually Bryan has to be at work before that time a few days each week. Now, I have my upstairs neighbor ready to get him there for me every day that I need it but she is considering moving before then. I also have an Aunt that I may be able to drop him off with and she would take him to school, but she also has to get to work. Six weeks into the program, my clinicals will start at 7 am and the daycare doesn't start until 7:30 am (of course!) and my Aunt will probably have to try to get those two to daycare on those days as well. (though she hasn't committed to this yet...just keeps telling me we'll figure it out)

    Now, another concern is Trey after school. This daycare will not take anyone five and older and there are two days that I have classes past the time he is in school. One is only by a few minutes but the other is a couple hours beyond school hours. There are some afterschool programs set up for kids but they do not come cheap. So, I think we are going to try to advertise for a private sitter. We would also need someone if Trey got sick or there was a snowday because most snowdays the college is still in session. An afterschool program would not help with these times and we really want him to have consistent childcare since the adjustment to school and me not being around is going to be hard enough on him.

    The ideal situation would be to find a sitter that could take the kids in the morning to school and daycare, take care of Trey on snowdays and take care of Trey after school on the days that I am in class later.

    The other main concern here is my studying time. Bryan is interviewing for a training job that would really, really help us out in terms of money (right now, we are barely living week to week and food is scarce) but this job would take him away from home a bit more. He would, however, have set hours and not work weekends so I could study then. I am just unsure as to how to explain to the children how important the studying is and is it really fair to them to study during the small amount of time that I am going to have with them?

    I am so confused, but typing this out has really helped! Oh, and the daycare can only take the kids for a half hour before my first class and a half hour after my last one if I am receiving government help so even being able to go to the lab and do extra work will be difficult!

    THanks guys....I feel better somehow now.
  10. by   tnrn2be
    Hi Kim......I usually don't post on this thread but I read your posts regarding your worries and had to. I am so sorry you are upset. I just began my 3rd semester of nursing school and I know the stress you are feeling right now. Just remember though----YOU CAN DO THIS. You have made it too far to quit now. I have 2 children and deliver newspapers in the middle of the night for extra money. This has been the hardest thing I have ever done in my life but I've made it this far and you can to. I look back at my first 2 semesters and think "how did I make it through still sane?" You'll make it, you just have to be creative in your scheduling and try to keep a positive attitude. Just remember its only 2 years and their going to pass by regardless. This is my 3rd time going to nursing school and this time I'm not quitting. I hope you're feeling better

  11. by   Energizer Bunny
    Angelia...thank you so much for your words of comfort and support.
  12. by   laughingfairy
    oh geez I did it again...I fell into the trap of the other thread...LOL

    Very emotional day for me to do that.

    Seems like evey time I really start dropping pounds all this stuff just drops out of my mouth too. (lost 5 pounds last week). Guess there is probably all kinds of psycho babble about that.

    Kim, have you thought about a nanny or live in sitter of some kind. Sometimes you can get financial aid for that as well...Try networking with other moms at school. Maybe you guys could come up with something mutually beneficial.
  13. by   Energizer Bunny
    We really have no space for a live in, but had thought of it when we lived in a bigger place in a different state when I was going to school before. I think once I start school, I may be able to work something out with someone just doing pre-req's, but until then....I don't know what to do!
  14. by   walterrn
    Here's a thought:

    Why not hire a young person to do all these things.

    Take the kids to school, clean the house, pick the kids up. Financially? Well, if you have a seperate den or bedroom, rent it out for trade. Room and board for the above chores. If I was, say, a struggling college student, that might be an ideal situation for me. For a little work, I get a room, some food and quiet time to study.

    If you dont have the space, what would that service cost? $100 qweek? Might be worth getting on work/study at your school to pay for this.

    Walter the Nurse