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  1. This is a discussion about how our society has changed. When I was younger, people looked at others with all their bodily imperfections as a part of them, accepting them the same way our children still do. The elderly people were individuals who we could learn a lot from, and we listened and enjoyed the stories they told us.

    In contrast, today's society looks at imperfection as a smear on their outward appearance, and everything about this now artificial way of life has turned to plastic. Think about it.
    We pay bills and buy things with plastic
    We have plastic plumbing in our homes
    We carry plastic lunchboxes
    We store our food in plastic containers

    We now have a TV show titled, "Extreme makeover, catering to a more youthful look, with replacements. We either replace our hair altogether, or we dye the grey and or the white, our faces have cosmetic plastic implants, and
    Plastic surgery abounds and is growing at a rapid rate.

    We somehow have learned that if we ourselves accept ourselves as the imperfect human beings we really are, then there's something wrong with us.
    What a shame. Gone are the days of originality where the person who had white or silver (as I do) hair is someone to be respected; someone we can look up to for advice and words of wisdom. When we become ill or grow old, we either get placed in a home or are shut-ins who feel like the old addage, "Out of sight, out of mind" still applies. I have experienced it myself. I see nobody offering me a ride to church anymore, so I do the best I can with what I have by reaching out to others, by studying my Bible, reading articles that have Spiritual messages, and watching televangelistic messages on TV. If I didn't have my computer, I wouldn't never have met any of you, nor many others. How unfortunate for me.
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  3. by   leslie :-D
    another thought-invoking thread from fran, which i 1000% agree with. however, i need to drive my dd somewhere and also need to put some thought in my response to your very sensitive assessment of our elderly. so i will be back. love you fran, really and truly.

    leslie xoxo
  4. by   Energizer Bunny
    Quote from Frances LeMay
    This is a discussion about how our society has changed. When I was younger, people looked at others with all their bodily imperfections as a part of them, accepting them the same way our children still do. The elderly people were individuals who we could learn a lot from, and we listened and enjoyed the stories they told us.

    In contrast, today's society looks at imperfection as a smear on their outward appearance, and everything about this now artificial way of life has turned to plastic. Think about it.
    We pay bills and buy things with plastic
    We have plastic plumbing in our homes
    We carry plastic lunchboxes
    We store our food in plastic containers

    We now have a TV show titled, "Extreme makeover, catering to a more youthful look, with replacements. We either replace our hair altogether, or we dye the grey and or the white, our faces have cosmetic plastic implants, and
    Plastic surgery abounds and is growing at a rapid rate.

    We somehow have learned that if we ourselves accept ourselves as the imperfect human beings we really are, then there's something wrong with us.
    What a shame. Gone are the days of originality where the person who had white or silver (as I do) hair is someone to be respected; someone we can look up to for advice and words of wisdom. When we become ill or grow old, we either get placed in a home or are shut-ins who feel like the old addage, "Out of sight, out of mind" still applies. I have experienced it myself. I see nobody offering me a ride to church anymore, so I do the best I can with what I have by reaching out to others, by studying my Bible, reading articles that have Spiritual messages, and watching televangelistic messages on TV. If I didn't have my computer, I wouldn't never have met any of you, nor many others. How unfortunate for me.
    Fran, I completely understand what you are saying here and I agree with you but in the same breath I need to tell you that I respect you and look up to you more than you will ever know. It's unfortunate that others do not see you as we do here! xoxoxoxox
  5. by   jnette
    The lack of caring and respect for the elderly comes from our own fears of what we have been conditioned to believe are imperfections.. as if being elderly equals imperfect. How sad and demented is that? :stone
  6. by   leslie :-D
    truly something i feel most impassioned about, our elderly. as a country, we (generically speaking) devalue and disrespect our elderly; as is evidenced by the mass medicare cuts, age discrimination lawsuits and the hyperfocus on youth and its' affiliated, so-called beauty. yes, one might purport that the youth are our future, which obviously is true. but if we honored and listened to the wisdom of what the elderly have to contribute, it would make for a much more virtuous society, including our youth. our youth disrespect our elderly and us baby boomers fear our elderly, looking the other way, frantically trying to recapture our youth. there is no grace or honor in aging. and that merely reflects the values of our 'me' society. truly heartbreaking.

    leslie
  7. by   FranEMTnurse
    Quote from earle58
    truly something i feel most impassioned about, our elderly. as a country, we (generically speaking) devalue and disrespect our elderly; as is evidenced by the mass medicare cuts, age discrimination lawsuits and the hyperfocus on youth and its' affiliated, so-called beauty. yes, one might purport that the youth are our future, which obviously is true. but if we honored and listened to the wisdom of what the elderly have to contribute, it would make for a much more virtuous society, including our youth. our youth disrespect our elderly and us baby boomers fear our elderly, looking the other way, frantically trying to recapture our youth. there is no grace or honor in aging. and that merely reflects the values of our 'me' society. truly heartbreaking.

    leslie
    yes it is, Leslie.xoxoxo
  8. by   leslie :-D
    fran, although you are not elderly (getting there, though you speak of someone who has lived a thousand years. it truly hurts me that people in your community are conveniently ignoring you. you've taught me SO much, even before we became so close. i honor you more than words will ever tell. don't ever forget that.

    xoxoxo
  9. by   Katnip
    Oh, Fran. The truly sad thing is that those who turn their back on you don't realize how their lives are diminished for not taking the time to know you. The same goes for everyone out there. Everyone has something to teach others.

    Fran, I don't always reply to all your posts, but you can bet I check every single one, because you give us all here so much to think about, laugh about, and cry about.

    You touch each and every one of us here.
  10. by   FranEMTnurse
    Quote from cyberkat
    Oh, Fran. The truly sad thing is that those who turn their back on you don't realize how their lives are diminished for not taking the time to know you. The same goes for everyone out there. Everyone has something to teach others.

    Fran, I don't always reply to all your posts, but you can bet I check every single one, because you give us all here so much to think about, laugh about, and cry about.

    You touch each and every one of us here.
    How very nice of you to say that, CK. Thank you.
  11. by   FranEMTnurse
    Quote from earle58
    fran, although you are not elderly (getting there, though you speak of someone who has lived a thousand years. it truly hurts me that people in your community are conveniently ignoring you. you've taught me SO much, even before we became so close. i honor you more than words will ever tell. don't ever forget that.

    xoxoxo
    Sweetie pie, I know you do. Only I love you more.
  12. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from jnette
    The lack of caring and respect for the elderly comes from our own fears of what we have been conditioned to believe are imperfections.. as if being elderly equals imperfect. How sad and demented is that? :stone
    imperfect and insignificant. sad and demented? yes. it goes to show you that dementia is not ltd. to the frail elderly. i know that i too, would lose it, knowing how i lived a long fruitful life with no legacy to leave behind because people didn't take the time to look, listenand reach out. and we wonder why agitation, psychosis, depression. hopelessness and suicide is so pervasive in this specific population. what's even sadder, is if this thought-provoking thread started by fran, gets little response, goes to show you how underappreciated these isolated people are....
  13. by   warrior woman
    You are so right Fran and Leslie. My mom is 77 years old, and had multiple health problems, but I would never even consider sweeping her under the rug, and into a home as if she didn't matter. I did have to have her stay in a nursing home temporarliy while she recovered from illness and a broken hip, and the guilt I felt then nearly killed me, even though I knew I couldn't care for her on my own at the time. Now, she is home, and doing well, except for problems with her legs, but we're together and I'll NEVER be too old to ask her advice or to need her love. No matter what happens or what the future holds, she'll always be the love of my life.
  14. by   Energizer Bunny
    Remember when I went to see Dr. Perls speak? He mentioned many of the problems with how society sees the elderly. He also mentioned how many GP unless they specialize in Geriatrics are just as bad as the general public.

    For me, I relish speaking with elderly people. They are so full of insight and wisdom. My great-grandmother is 90 years old in two weeks. My Aunt's MIL is 93 and I am very close with both of them and love to debate topics and brainstorm with them.

    I seem to relate to the "older" people here on all nurses much more so than the "younger" ones as well.......

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