fibrocystic breasts, progresterone, and related issues

  1. I was looking up fibrocystic breast disease for a friend (they r/o breast cancer). Found an interesting page at

    http://www.fibrocystic.com/

    I think I may have this problem as well, it seems to be getting worse and I'm pretty sure I am pre-menopausal - I am SCARY at times (mwah ha ha) ... other s/sx.

    What have others experienced related to menopause/hormone therapy/etc.?


    John Lee from the book, "What Your Doctor May Not Tell You About Menopause":

    From my women patients, I learned that fibrocystic breasts were most often a sign of estrogen dominance; relatively high estrogen and low progesterone. In my experience, using natural progesterone routinely solves the problem. I also recommend adding vitamin E in dosages of 600 IU at bedtime, supplemental magnesium (300 milligrams a day), and vitamin B6 (50 milligrams per day)*. I cannot recall a case in which the result was not positive. Once the cysts have cleared up, you can reduce the progesterone dose to find the smallest dose that is still effective each month and continue the treatment as needed through menopause. This treatment is simple, safe, inexpensive, successful, and natural."


    I believe he's talking about topical progesterone.

    Here's what he says about synthetic estrogens:


    Xenoestrogens (foreign estrogens) as the Primary Culprit



    '"Xeno" means foreign. Estrogen is the female hormone that causes breast development and dominates the first part of the menstrual cycle. A hormone is a chemical messenger. The problem is that there are 100,000 chemicals in use in the United States, and some of these synthetic chemicals have estrogen like effects (xenoestrogens). Scientists now believe that xenoestrogens can cause fibrocystic breast disease and breast cancer. Too much intake of estrogen or xenoestrogens has been labeled as estrogen dominance by Lee, MD. And synthetic estrogen or chemicals that mimic estrogen (xenoestrogen) is NOT the same as Natural Estrogen. According to the Physician's Desk Reference, synthetic estrogen will cause an increase in endometrial cancer and breast cancer.

    United States and Canadian ranchers routinely give synthetic estrogen to their cattle. As a result of the estrogen, the cattle bloat and retain water. Thus, the estrogenized cattle meat is heavier and more tender. Also the fat begins to build up in the animal and marble through the meat. The ranchers can get more money for their cattle because the meat weighs more and is more tender. The ranchers give estrogen to their cattle intentionally for the bloating fattening effect of estrogen, and faster growth. '
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  2. 84 Comments

  3. by   muffie
    obviously someone has been puttting synthetic estrogen in my food

    i'm all fat, bloated and marbled !!!!
  4. by   Liddle Noodnik
    Quote from muffie
    obviously someone has been puttting synthetic estrogen in my food

    i'm all fat, bloated and marbled !!!!
    Well somebody has been putting CAKE in MINE!

    {{{{{{{{{Muffie}}}}}}} How ya doon?

    I am pms/ms'sing

    so don't m's with me...
  5. by   muffie
    you r pms'ing
    can i pm u ?

    [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[zoe]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

    eye iz doin' otay

    got a list of 'to do' a mile long and ain't doin' 'nuttin
  6. by   Liddle Noodnik
    Quote from muffie
    you r pms'ing
    can i pm u ?

    [[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[[zoe]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]

    eye iz doin' otay

    got a list of 'to do' a mile long and ain't doin' 'nuttin
    Herrro Muffie

    Had to work tonite and I feel like ...pain/bloating, moody as YOU WOULDN"T BELIEVE, and -- the list, and not getting anywhere with it. Oh well, here I am and I will feel better after chatting with y'all for a bit ...

    {{{{{{{Muffin Tin}}}}}}}}
  7. by   muffie
    can i rub your tummy ?

    get you a heating pad ?

    cup of chamomile tea ?
  8. by   jamonit
    hehehe! you guys are funny.

    when i was 22, my gyno sent me to a breast specialist, if you will. he told me that evening primrose oil would help with the fibrocystic pain. have you heard of that as a natural way to alleviate symptoms? i've heard about the vitamin e link and progesterone. (i have the muirena iud--how ever you spell it) and since then, the steady low dose seems to have alleviated some of the discomfort. oi vey.
  9. by   Liddle Noodnik
    Quote from muffie
    can i rub your tummy ?

    get you a heating pad ?

    cup of chamomile tea ?
    I think I will have Lexie lay on my tummy, she likes to "knead" - and then she can lie down and purr - warm me right up lol

    As to chamomile, YUCK! But a cup of REGULAR tea sounds REALLY awesome. In fact I just bought some milk tonite (I was all out). Ever heat up the milk and steep the tea bag in it (not as long as with hot water)? It is DIVINE!
  10. by   muffie
    now that's one jazzy avatar zoe
  11. by   muffie
    Quote from zoeboboey
    I think I will have Lexie lay on my tummy, she likes to "knead" - and then she can lie down and purr - warm me right up lol

    As to chamomile, YUCK! But a cup of REGULAR tea sounds REALLY awesome. In fact I just bought some milk tonite (I was all out). Ever heat up the milk and steep the tea bag in it (not as long as with hot water)? It is DIVINE!

    puuuurrrfect !
  12. by   Liddle Noodnik
    Quote from jamonit
    hehehe! you guys are funny.

    when i was 22, my gyno sent me to a breast specialist, if you will. he told me that evening primrose oil would help with the fibrocystic pain. have you heard of that as a natural way to alleviate symptoms? i've heard about the vitamin e link and progesterone. (i have the muirena iud--how ever you spell it) and since then, the steady low dose seems to have alleviated some of the discomfort. oi vey.
    Who, me and Muffie? Funny?? Why do you say that? You evil ... wait... Sorry, that's my PMS talking! Actually, I started my period so I feel a little better emotionally (don't want to scream at the cat so much) so you're safe LOL

    My LOL friend, 70 y.o., just went to an oncology hosp because she was so concerned about her lumps and bumps, and her regular doc just pooh poohed her concerns (she tends to freak out about every little thing wrong with her but STILL - she is the patient!) Anyway - they did dx the fibrocystic breasts, and she just told me tonite about the evening primrose oil! isn't that funny?

    The IUD, does that have progesterone in it?

    Nice hearing from you, look for Muffie and I in the "funny papers" LOL
  13. by   Liddle Noodnik
    Quote from muffie
    now that's one jazzy avatar zoe
    I think this is an elderly-er couple - I thought it was cute

    Oops, re-working so you can see a bigger pic



    *******
    k, let's see if this pic is larger.



    Last edit by Liddle Noodnik on Feb 17, '07
  14. by   muffie
    flappin' in the 20's

    thanks

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