Fake News

  1. Fixation on Fake News Overshadows Waning Trust in Real Reporting
    Something is deeply wrong when the pope’s voice, reputation and influence can be borrowed by a source that describes itself as “a fantasy news site” to claim that he has endorsed a presidential candidate, and then be amplified, unchallenged, through a million individual shares.
    The attention paid to fake news since the election has focused largely on fabrications and outright lies, because they are indefensible, easy to identify and extraordinarily viral. Fake news is created by the kinds of people who, when asked, might call their work satire, or admit that they’re in it for the money or for the thrill of deception.
    Theirs is a behavior that can and should be shunned, and that Facebook is equipped, and maybe willing, to deal with...
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/19/bu...ting.html?_r=0
    Snopes' Field Guide to Fake News Sites and Hoax Purveyors
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  2. 24 Comments

  3. by   elkpark
    I saw the coverage of this, and the interview with the individual who claims to have invented some of the specific pieces of "news" that have been frequently cited by several of the conservative posters on this site.
  4. by   toomuchbaloney
    Sadly, it was expertly demonstrated in this most recent election cycle that millions of American's are not terribly interested in facts or proof. They seem to be more drawn to hyperbole and breathless accusations which tickle their ears and feed their fears.

    Since we no longer have an expectation that the press is anything other than a capitalist pursuit, we are left to our own abilities or lack thereof to discern truths from lies.

    We have failed.

    Millions of people voted for a man because of lies.
    They voted for a man who made racist comments on the campaign trail and is now appointing white supremacists to his administrative team.
    They voted for a man who made sexually explicit comments about assaulting women and getting away with it because of celebrity.
    They voted for a man who mocked a disabled man because he didn't agree with him.
    They voted for a man who has a history of cheating people out of what he agreed to in contract and out of what they earned.
    They voted for a man who spent the last 8 years promoting the notion that the current president wasn't born in the USA.
    They voted for a man who engages in twitter wars over petty and sophomoric agendas.

    It is interesting to me that millions of Americans cannot see that Trump is a racist, a misogynist, a xenophobe, or a demagogue.

    I am reminded of the narrative in Westworld where the Hosts literally cannot see that which they are programed to not see; that which might "hurt" them or challenge their reality. What racism/misogyny/bigotry = "what door"

    For those who might not be a fan of this program, that "what door" comment was a revelation of the reality lurking in the shadows and the depth of influence the shadow has on the light.

    Most of us don't get sucked in by fake news.
    Alas, most of us don't vote either.
  5. by   herring_RN
    An opinion. I only quoted a small part:
    Fake news writers need to meet the real reporters who die trying to do their jobs
    Charnice Milton.
    That’s whom those two guys cranking out fake news in a California apartment should have given some thought to during this election cycle.
    Milton was a 27-year-old journalist fatally shot at a bus stop in Southeast Washington last year, on her way home from covering a late-night community meeting at Eastern Market.
    She was used as a human shield in a gun fight, her killing still unsolved. And she was at that deadly place because of the precise way she practiced her craft, the real journalism that so much of America walked away from during the presidential campaign...

    ... Fake news hucksters don’t leave their apartment to find stories, they don’t interview any humans, they don’t have any sources.

    They are part of the snake oil empire that had more engagement on Facebook in the past three months of the presidential campaign “than the top stories from major news outlets such as the New York Times, Washington Post, Huffington Post, NBC News and others,” according to an analysis by BuzzFeed...

    ... “There’s not a ton of thought put into it,” Wade told The Post, about the way he manufactures fake stories from his sofa, such as: “BREAKING: Michelle Obama holds Feminist Rally At HER SLAVE HOUSE!” or “THE TRUTH IS OUT! The Media Doesn’t Want You To See What Hillary Did After Losing.”...

    ... For anyone who cares about democracy in the age of Trump, there is nothing more disturbing than two guys sitting on a couch, fabricating stories and counting the cash they get with thousands of clicks.

    Charnice Milton didn’t do that. We have to find a way to honor her life and her work by valuing real reporting...
    Fake news writers need to meet the real reporters who die trying to do their jobs - The Washington Post
  6. by   herring_RN
  7. by   herring_RN
    Gunman opens fire in DC pizzeria after homophobic fake political news story
    A man who said he was investigating a fake news story about Hillary Clinton running a child sex ring out of a pizza place was arrested after firing a rifle inside the Washington, D.C., restaurant, police said...

    ... The restaurant gained notoriety during the presidential campaign after fake news stories stated Clinton and her campaign chief ran a child sex ring out of the restaurant, news organizations have reported.
    “For now, I will simply say that we should all condemn the efforts of certain people to spread malicious and utterly false accusations about Comet Ping Pong, a venerated DC institution,” restaurant owner James Alefantis said in a statement. “Let me state unequivocally: these stories are completely and entirely false, and there is no basis in fact to any of them. What happened today demonstrates that promoting false and reckless conspiracy theories comes with consequences.”
    Alefantis was in a relationship with former rightwing journalist turned Clinton supporter David Brock.
    The religious right has regularly claimed that gay men commonly engage in pedophilia despite overwhelming evidence that sexual child abuse is normally committed by heterosexual men.
    False claims that gay political candidates are involved in child sex abuse rings has been a common trope for Republican politicians for decades...
    Gunman opens fire in DC pizzeria after homophobic fake political news story / LGBTQ Nation
    Police: Fake news story led gunman to popular DC pizzeria
    Police: Fake news story led gunman to popular DC pizzeria - Story | WTTG
  8. by   rnmaybe
    More fake news outlets. This fake news outlet is called the Washington Post

    Website Labeled 'Fake News' Threatens To Sue WaPo For Defamation | The Daily Caller


    How about this fake news story from the NYT about Trump
    FAKE! NY Times's "Groping Victim" Made Up Trump Story, Borrowed It From...
    Last edit by rnmaybe on Dec 5, '16
  9. by   elkpark
    Quote from rnmaybe
    More fake news outlets. This fake news outlet is called the Washington Post

    Website Labeled 'Fake News' Threatens To Sue WaPo For Defamation | The Daily Caller


    How about this fake news story from the NYT about Trump
    FAKE! NY Times's "Groping Victim" Made Up Trump Story, Borrowed It From...
    The article about the WP (published on a known far-right website -- is that really all you ever read, or just the only sites you post here?) says that the lawyer for a website named on the list published by the WP is accusing the WP of inaccurately including it on a list of supposed "fake news" websites. Lots of people accuse lots of people of all kinds of horrible things. I will wait to see how the accusations shake out. The list published by the WP was put together by another organization which supplied it to the WP and other news outlets. There is some criticism in the article that it was sloppy journalism on the part of the WP to publish the list without further verifying it. The strongest criticism of the WP article comes from Patrick Maines, who is a known right-wing media activist. No big surprise there, and sloppy journalism isn't the same thing as "fake news."

    The story about the NYT story, from yet another far-right website, says nothing that indicates the story was actually "made up" or "FAKE!," just that some people (who clearly have a pro-Trump agenda) found similarities between the language the victim used to describe Trump assaulting her and some song lyrics, and it then makes the rather breathtaking leap of logic that that must mean the accusation was false. There have been an awful lot of songs written over the years. I'm sure that, if one was motivated and determined enough and had enough free time, one could find similarities between most anything someone (anyone) said and lyrics from some song that someone once wrote. Nice try, though.
  10. by   herring_RN
    An opinion:
    Pizzagate is a lie. But what it says about our society is real
    In any other year, a story like “Pizzagate” would get you laughed out of the room.
    The conspiracy theory claiming that Hillary Clinton was part of an underground child-sex trafficking ring run out of a pizza shop, is bizarre and disturbing from start to finish.
    But in 2016 – a year where nothing seems to make sense anymore – a story like that can be cited as a motive for a crime.

    On Sunday, a gunman carrying an assault rifle entered a pizza shop in Washington DC, Comet Ping Pong. He reportedly wanted to “self-investigate” the spurious Clinton report...

    ... The people spreading this fake story – and countless other ones which circulated this year, out-performing real articles on Facebook – don’t actually believe in Pizzagate. They do not really believe that there is a child trafficking ring being run underneath a pizza shop in Washington DC in which Hillary Clinton takes part.
    They don’t really believe in Pizzagate just like they do not believe that Hillary Clinton had an FBI agent killed for supposedly leaking her emails, or that three million people “illegally voted” for Clinton in this election.
    You know what they do believe?
    That Hillary Clinton – and liberals more generally –are their enemy.
    And because they have labeled them their enemy, they believe they are at war with them. And in this war they are looking for weapons.
    The internet, which has found a way to monetize their hate, has been happy to provide them with these weapons...

    ... When you look at scandals like Pizzagate, you should be sad and afraid, but not about how “gullible” the American public is. You should be terrified of how low some of us are willing to stoop – the lies some of us are willing to spread and the lives some of us are willing to risk and ruin – in order to destroy our political foes.
    When we are right, all we need is the truth to justify our actions.
    If the truth doesn’t suffice, that’s a good indicator that we are wrong.
    We should all be investigating that second of satisfaction and justification we feel when we see a headline claiming horrific wrongdoing by those we oppose, because therein lies our undoing.
    Pizzagate is a lie, but what it says about our society is real...
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...efing_c-US_d-1
  11. by   rnmaybe
    Sloppy journalism is not fake news? Did the Washington Post list any of the supposed fake news stories that these sites published? Like most liberals the WP has preconceived notions and write their stories that fit their pre-conceived narrative. As for the NYT is their any corroboration to the story this woman told? Your sloppy journalism at supposed newspaper's of record is nothing but fake news. You liberals need to get over the fact that you lost, and not because of "fake" news, or James Comey or racism, sexism an any of your other isms. You lost because you fielded a crappy candidate that lies constantly, is self serving fraud and her only experiences are failures.



    Quote from elkpark
    The article about the WP (published on a known far-right website -- is that really all you ever read, or just the only sites you post here?) says that the lawyer for a website named on the list published by the WP is accusing the WP of inaccurately including it on a list of supposed "fake news" websites. Lots of people accuse lots of people of all kinds of horrible things. I will wait to see how the accusations shake out. The list published by the WP was put together by another organization which supplied it to the WP and other news outlets. There is some criticism in the article that it was sloppy journalism on the part of the WP to publish the list without further verifying it. The strongest criticism of the WP article comes from Patrick Maines, who is a known right-wing media activist. No big surprise there, and sloppy journalism isn't the same thing as "fake news."

    The story about the NYT story, from yet another far-right website, says nothing that indicates the story was actually "made up" or "FAKE!," just that some people (who clearly have a pro-Trump agenda) found similarities between the language the victim used to describe Trump assaulting her and some song lyrics, and it then makes the rather breathtaking leap of logic that that must mean the accusation was false. There have been an awful lot of songs written over the years. I'm sure that, if one was motivated and determined enough and had enough free time, one could find similarities between most anything someone (anyone) said and lyrics from some song that someone once wrote. Nice try, though.
  12. by   elkpark
    Quote from rnmaybe
    Sloppy journalism is not fake news?
    No, it isn't.
  13. by   rnmaybe
    And the hits just keep on coming. The Alt-Reality left is in a tail spin.


    Washington Post Appends "Russian Propaganda Fake News" Story, Admits It May Be Fake | Zero Hedge

    Quote from elkpark
    No, it isn't.
  14. by   elkpark
    Quote from rnmaybe
    And the hits just keep on coming. The Alt-Reality left is in a tail spin.


    Washington Post Appends "Russian Propaganda Fake News" Story, Admits It May Be Fake | Zero Hedge
    There is no "tail spin." Still not "fake news." The WP conceded that one of the four reports it cited in the original article has been questioned by numerous individuals and organizations, and they are backing away from that one report. That still doesn't make the WP article "fake news" and doesn't change the fact that a great deal of actual "fake news" was promulgated during the campaign on Trump's behalf, and a lot of people who should have at least, please, God, some ability to know better and figure out when they are being played fell for it.

    But congrats on linking a source that is not obviously, at first glance, a hyperpartisan right-wing website.

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