Euthanasia

  1. has anyone kept up with the trial going on in idaho--concerns a homicide which the accused says was suicide and everyone else believes is mercy killing===i have not heard the jury's verdict
    I saw also where Dr. Kevorkian's request for a new trial was denied...
    i had a friend who said when abortion issue first came up she was appalled and was dead set against now she is definitely in the prochoice group..loud and long in that column
    i wonder if in a few years we will accept euthanasia as a choice of a person to do with their body as they choose...i would not want to live like some of the residents who i have cared for but i would not want my children to have to make a choice.. any feed back
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  3. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I have not kept up on this news story. I will at this point, not discuss my viewpoints on euthanasia....too early in the morning for me. Let's just say I can see all sides of the issue......it's a slipperly slope to be sure.
  4. by   missmercy
    Agree- VERY slippery slope!! All sorts of legal, ethical, emotional, politiacal.... ramifications!
  5. by   stevierae
    Quote from missmercy
    Agree- VERY slippery slope!! All sorts of legal, ethical, emotional, politiacal.... ramifications!

    Well---I live in Oregon, where we passed a physician assisted suicide law. I am all for it, (and I voted for it.) Although I am Catholic and would not commit suicide myself, I would not deny a person with a terminal illness with no hope of survival the right to end his pain as he saw fit.
  6. by   leslie :-D
    i believe it to be a very individual situation unique to each person, and would not rubberstamp assisted suicide to all terminal people.
  7. by   Energizer Bunny
    I think it should be up to the person, as long as they are mentally aware. After all, we have the right to choose to commit suicide on our own at any time, don't we?

    Abortion is a different issue as far as I can see, because it involves another life and I don't want to debate that here. I think I've done that enough lately!
  8. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from CNM2B
    I think it should be up to the person, as long as they are mentally aware. After all, we have the right to choose to commit suicide on our own at any time, don't we?
    kimmy, don't laugh, but suicide is illegal.

    i guess what i struggle with is if a mentally aware person is depressed, then their decision is clouded by that depression. of course they have the right to be depressed but it's not the same as someone who has come to accept their terminality and makes an objective, well deliberated decision to end their life. i would not feel comfortable assisting someone who was very depressed.
  9. by   Energizer Bunny
    Okay, suicide is illegal....who are they gonna charge? LOL! Sorry, that was horrible but geez......of all the dumb laws. Well, then IMO, suicide should not be illegal....it's our body and not affecting another soul, so it should be our choice.

    I can see where you wouldn't want to help a depressed patient, but to me if they are depressed, why make them live through even more?
  10. by   leslie :-D
    because people often do not make good decisions in their depression. if there were no intervention for those who wanted to commit suicide, then we certainly wouldn't have this problem of overpopulation today, that's for sure. i can't imagine not intervening with someone who is depressed....
  11. by   Energizer Bunny
    I can't either, but depressed AND terminally ill.....well, I would want someone to help me die if that were the case. If someone was "just" depressed, well of course I would want to help them. Thank God someone helped me! But if I had been terminally ill.......man, just let me go.....

    I'm only thinking of it being the most humane thing to do but then again, it's messing with God's plan and I don't want to do that either!
  12. by   stevierae
    Quote from earle58
    kimmy, don't laugh, but suicide is illegal.

    i guess what i struggle with is if a mentally aware person is depressed, then their decision is clouded by that depression. of course they have the right to be depressed but it's not the same as someone who has come to accept their terminality and makes an objective, well deliberated decision to end their life. i would not feel comfortable assisting someone who was very depressed.
    Who says suicide is illegal? Granted, in many religions (Catholicism included) it is considered a a SIN, but I've never heard that committing suicide was a crime. As someone else said, who would be charged?

    In Oregon, "assisted suicide" involves writing a lethal prescription, at the patient's request. It's not given out like candy, and it's not written lightly. A lot of lethal prescritions have been written but never filled. Why? Maybe the person died naturally before he had a chance to use the prescription. Maybe he changed his mind. But, in any case, he was IN CONTROL of his destiny--and just that knowledge, in my opinion, would be comforting to a terminally ill patient.

    As far as depression--I think they undergo extensive counselling before the script is written, but, think about it--who WOULDN'T be depressed if they knew they were going to die, and had absolutely no hope of recovery?
  13. by   Energizer Bunny
    ((((((((Leslie)))))))))))) I just want you to know that I realize what a touchy subject this must be for you.
  14. by   leslie :-D
    Quote from stevierae
    who WOULDN'T be depressed if they knew they were going to die, and had absolutely no hope of recovery?
    first, suicided isn't illegal but attempted suicide is; i don't remember where i read this but since this is not the issue at hand, feel free to do your own research.

    more important, of course people are going to be depressed but being a nurse who has transitioned hundreds of patients, not all are depressed; they accept their fate. so if they do go through EXTENSIVE screening and counselling, then yes they should be able to do so. it still is a very potentially dangerous situation.

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