Did Bush mean what he said in 2000?

  1. These answers have stayed in my head since the 2000 Presidential Debate. I have underlined the interesting statements. Are we not nation-building now? Was it just because oil was involved? Do we have a clear exit strategy?

    OCTOBER 3, 2000

    LEHRER: New question.

    How would you go about, as president, deciding when it was in the national interest to use U.S. force? Generally.

    BUSH: Well, if it's in our vital national interests. And that means whether or not our territory -- our territory is threatened, our people could be harmed, whether or not our alliances -- our defense alliances are threatened, whether or not our friends in the Middle East are threatened. That would be a time to seriously consider the use of force.

    Secondly, whether or not the mission was clear, whether or not it was a clear understanding as to what the mission would be.

    Thirdly, whether or not we were prepared and trained to win, whether or not our forces were of high morale and high standing and well-equipped.

    And finally, whether or not there was an exit strategy.

    I would take the use of force very seriously. I would be guarded in my approach. I don't think we can be all things to all people in the world. I think we've got to be very careful when we commit our troops.

    The vice president and I have a disagreement about the use of troops. He believes in nation-building. I would be very careful about using our troops as nation builders.

    BUSH: I believe the role of the military is to fight and win war and, therefore, prevent war from happening in the first place.

    And so I take my responsibility seriously. And it starts with making sure we rebuild our military power.

    Morale in today's military is too low. We're having trouble meeting recruiting goals. We met the goals this year, but in the previous years, we have not met recruiting goals. Some of our troops are not well-equipped. I believe we're overextended in too many places.

    And, therefore, I want to rebuild the military power. It starts with a billion dollar pay raise for the men and women who wear the uniform, a billion dollars more than the president recently signed into law, to make sure our troops are well-housed and well-equipped; bonus plans to keep some of our high-skilled folks in the services; and a commander in chief who clearly sets the mission, and the mission is to fight and win war, and, therefore, prevent war from happening in the first place.

    LEHRER: Vice President Gore, one minute.

    GORE: Let me tell you what I'll do. First of all, I want to make it clear: Our military is the strongest, best-trained, best- equipped, best-lead fighting force in the world and in the history of the world. Nobody should have any doubt about that, least of all our adversaries or potential adversaries.

    I -- if you entrust me with the presidency, I will do whatever is necessary in order to make sure our forces stay the strongest in the world.

    In fact, in my 10-year budget proposal, I have set aside more than twice as much for this purpose as Governor Bush has in his proposal.

    GORE: Now, I think we should be reluctant to get involved in someplace, in a foreign country. But, if our national security is at stake, if we have allies, if we've tried every other course, if we're sure military action will succeed, and if the costs are proportionate to the benefits, we should get involved.

    Now, just because we don't want to get involved everywhere doesn't mean we should back off anywhere it comes up.

    And I disagree with the -- with the proposal that maybe only when oil supplies are at stake that our national security is at risk. I think that there are situations, like in Bosnia or Kosovo where there's genocide, where our national security is at stake there.

    LEHRER: Governor?

    BUSH: I agree that our military is the strongest in the world today. That's not the question. The question is will it be strongest in years to come? And the warning signs are real. Everywhere I go around the campaign trail, I see people who -- moms and dads whose son or daughter may wear the uniform, and they tell me about how discouraged their son and daughter may be.

    A recent poll was taken amongst 1,000 enlisted personnel, as well as officers, over half of whom are going to leave the service when their time of enlistment is up. The captains are leaving the service.

    There is a problem, and it's going to require a new commander in chief to rebuild the military power.

    The other day, I was honored to be flanked by Colin Powell and General Norman Schwarzkopf, who stood by my side and agreed with me.

    BUSH: They said we could, even though we're the strongest military, that if we don't do something quickly, we don't have a clearer vision of the military, if we don't stop extending our troops all around the world in nation-building missions, then we're going to have a serious problem coming down the road. And I'm going to prevent that. I'm going to rebuild our military power. It's one of the major priorities of my administration.

    God Bless America

    VOTE November 2, 2004!!!!
  2. 4 Comments

  3. by   Mkue
    Quote from AGoodmanRNbound
    Was it just because oil was involved? Do we have a clear exit strategy?
    It's about liberating a country from a diabolical dicator who didn't comply with weapons inspections, who was harboring terrorists and possibly/probably developing WMD.

    Do we have a clear exit strategy? I believe so, as long as the Terrorists stop harrassing and killing those who do want Peace in Iraq.

  4. by   julieftRN
    I believe, from reading the OP that Bush did in fact stay on course. Looks like he has done exactly (almost) what he said.
  5. by   teeituptom
    the question is did Bushie mean what he said in 2000

    the question really is,,,,,,Does he remember what he said
  6. by   Dixiedi
    Quote from teeituptom
    the question is did Bushie mean what he said in 2000

    the question really is,,,,,,Does he remember what he said
    President Bush did have an exit strategy thought out and it was unable to be fullfiled. Yes, he remembers what he said and he is indeed following it.

    Why do you think oil is so involved? I have not heard a single time any of those in autority say, "We are going to go over there and take their oil" or anything that could even be mistaken for that.

    What I have read, and this is from one of the Muslim Daily newspapers in Europe, referencing the 3 month trueuce that is just about over....

    The statement said attacks would continue until the United States freed Muslim prisoners, ended its war on Islam and until "all Muslim land, including Jerusalem and Kashmir, is cleansed of the stain of Jews, Americans and Hindus."

    here's a link to the whole story just in case you have trouble believing that I didn't just make it up. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5347227/

    50 some odd years ago Hitler made a statement that sounded so much like that in reference to Jews. We all know how that turned out. Of course, if left to todays liberals we'd all be yelling "For the Fatherland" instead of "God Bless America!" As much as athiests hate that phrase, even they must agree it beats the heck out of the alternative.