death penalty

  1. what are your thoughts on the death penalty? i hear that it costs more to care for a prisoner for life than to implement the death penalty. even though i think that the death penalty is not used as often or as swiftly as it should be i wonder about cases overturned and how to avoid such things if the deart penalty were used quickly--without all the appeals and cost.
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  2. 51 Comments

  3. by   MollyJ
    Hi Janet,
    Nice post (makes a change.)

    I am against the death penalty because of the fallibility of the courts and because I think the state takes on a terrible burden when it starts to kill people. (This is akin to fighting bullying with bullying.) Still, it is obvious that some folks do such heinous things that society needs to be permanently protected from them and they should be imprisoned for a lifetime.

    I have heard that due to the expense of legal appeals, the death penalty is MORE expensive than life time imprisonment. Cannot claim to know which is more correct here. I would refer you to Sister Helen PreJean's book _Dead Men Walking_,. Never saw the movie, but the book was quite defining for me. I particularly found what she wrote about forgiveness to be quite difficult, challenging and amazing. I pray that I would never be called to forgive someone who hurt my son or husband.
  4. by   duckie
    At the risk of being the bad guy here, I have to say I do believe in the death penalty. No one forces anyone to commit murder. Anyone who does commit murder does so knowing that our country does use the death penalty. They make a choice. Yes, there are times I am certain when innocent have been put to death and this is a horrible fate for someone that has done nothing wrong. BUT, the guilty should be punished and since their victims were not given a choice, no longer can live life and love their families, why should their judge and jury be permitted to. Perhaps my veiws are swayed by the fact that my Mom was shot many years ago by a man that pleaded insanity. He was walking the streets again before my mother even learned how to walk again. She is 72 years old and has lived in fear of him for a long time. This is not right. At the age of 12 I nearly lost my mother while this nut case ran free, free to do this again and of course since he was loose in the head, he has more rights than my mom did. He was put in a mental facility for 6 short months. While my dad was walking backwards, holding on to my mothers hands to guide her and teach her how to walk, this man was going about his business. Mom couldn't, she was house bound, lived in fear. I think the possibilites are decreasing for the innocent to be convicted, thanks to so many new techniques for finding evidence. I figure if you make the choice to cross the line then you take the risk of the ultimate penalty. I do not want anyone convicted that is innocent but I have no sadness when a guilty person is executed, they made their choice....their victim had none.
  5. by   Ted
    Boy, is this is one heated topic!!

    However, for a variety of reasons, I'm totally against the death penalty.

    Ted
  6. by   fergus51
    I am against it because it just isn't practical. It costs way more than prison (lawyers are more expensive than jail guards), it takes forever to be executed, there are a lot of innocent people who have been convicted of capital crimes in the US then proven innocent, I don't think the state has a right to kill people and it doesn't have any deterrent effect. I live in Canada and the murder rate has actually gone down since the death penalty was abolished here. I can understand why victims' families would want the death penalty, but I don't think it is the job of the gov't to kill anyone. What's wrong with a long life in a small cell? That can't be fun.
  7. by   BrandyBSN
    I am all for the death penalty, and with the risk of having an unpopular opinion, I dont think that it is used often enough. I am really in the "eye for an eye" group. And I really dont believe that there is such a thing as a cruel and unusual punishment. If you shoot someone, you should be shot, if you rape someone, you should be tortured, and if you molest a child, you should be castrated. the victims dont have a choice, so i dont think that the criminals should have a choice either.
  8. by   misti_z
    I would be against the death penalty if our prison system was not so messed up. Men and women in for murder and rape get to work out, play ball, and socialize. It would be a much better system if during their life sentences they were in lock-up. In their 6 x 6 rooms 23.5/7.
    But because that is not how it works I am for the death penalty.
  9. by   hoolahan
    OK, call me wishy washy, but here is my position.

    I am against the death penalty because I believe God is the only person who has the right to decide life or death (yet I am pro-choice, go figure.)

    Duckie I am so sorry your mother had to go through what she did. Unfortunately, the way the system works, he could never have gotten the death penalty for insanity defense, is that correct? So either way, your monster would have walked. And there of course lies the biggest problem. Our constitution was created in a time where attacks by "savages" were the greatest concerns of our forefathers. Time for an update folks!! Screw history! It worked then, but it doesn't work anymore.

    Let me also say, and it will be illogical, but I'll admit it. If anyone ever touched my kids, especially if I ever found out they were sexually abused, I would buy a gun, hunt down the perp, and blow his brains out with no regret!! In fact I can picture myself doing it quite calmly, emptying the whole gun into him, in startegic locations on his body. Starting at the groin and ending with his brains. I would be perfectly willing to serve my time for it if needed, I accept that I would be treated as a murderer and I would still do it anyway!!! I would also be willing to burn in hell for it, but I believe God is forgiving, and unless I got the wrong person, He would forgive me.

    Here in NJ, the prisoners kill each other. Ambrose Harris a notorious killer took care of cop-killer The Mud Man while in prison, then there was the guy who did in Jeffery Dahmer in prison (not in NJ though), so eventually, maybe every dog will have his day!! Now I just wish someone would take care of Meghan Kanka's killer, Timedequas. If only he could share a cell with Ambrose for a week.
  10. by   Q.
    I am for the death penalty - but only in cases where there is absolutely NO DOUBT that the accused is indeed guilty. (such as in the cases of good ole Milwaukeean Jeffrey Dahmer, Ed Gein, those type of predators) If there is ANY reasonable doubt, then the death penalty should not be imposed.

    It does cost quite a bit to house a criminal for life; not to mention, we also pay for them to go to school, have access to Nordic Tracks and BowFlexes, cable TV, etc. Eye for an eye is my theory.
  11. by   Q.
    Oh Wildtime, I was under the impression they got that already. Ooops my mistake.
  12. by   RNforLongTime
    I am in agreement with the posters who said "eye for an eye". If someone took the life (purposely) of one of my loved ones, you can bet your next paycheck that I would want their life to end as well! There are exceptions. Like if the murder was in self defense then no the murderer shouldn't have to die. People like Timothy Mcveigh? He deserved the death penalty and that is what he got! There are prisoners who live better than people out on the streets! They have access to gyms, pools etc. Criminals can even earn college degrees at the expense of the taxpayers! Hello! I paid my own way through college and am a law abiding citizen! But anyhow, under certain circumstances, I am for the death penalty.
  13. by   PhantomRN
    I am for the death penalty, with out question.

    There has been many advances in forensic science, making it much easier to say with out doubt in a lot of cases who did or did not commit the crime.
  14. by   donmurray
    Put me down as a NO. There have been advances in forensics, and one of those, ie. dna testing , is showing just how many innocent convicts there are. How do you compensate someone for years in prison, for something they did not do, and how much more so if you executed them already? Such events may be a tiny percentage, but for that individual, it's 100%.

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