Constitutional Gay Marriage Ban

  1. ok, we''ve hashed out the gay marriage issue on the board before, and i'm not looking to re-open that debate.

    i must admit, i am greatly troubled this proposed amendment. what i find most troubling is the fact that this is really the first time that an amendment has been proposed that seeks to limit the freedoms of our population, or a segment thereof. i guess it could be the second time, if you count prohibition, but i cannot put consumption of alcohol at the level of a freedom.

    now, i doubt seriously that it will ever get out of the senate, and even if it did, i cannot see any possibility of it being ratified by 2/3 of the states. but that's not the point. i am greatly troubled that there are congressmen who believe they have not only the right, but the duty and responsibility to impose certain religious beliefs on the rest of us, and in the process, deny any kind of right to a segment of our population. i am greatly troubled that gw bush supports the idea of this amendment.

    for the record: the constitution of the united states exists to protect the rights of the people. it is not a vehicle by which some people can limit the rights of others. hopefully, this nonsense will die a painful, embarassing death tomorrow on the senate floor.

    kevin mchugh
  2. 20 Comments

    originally posted by kmchugh

    "...hopefully, this nonsense will die a painful, embarassing death tomorrow on the senate floor."
    i hope this doesn't go anywhere either.
  4. by   jnette
    Big fat DITTO there. For all the above reasons.
  5. by   VivaLasViejas
    Well said, as usual, Kevin.
  6. by   EarthChild1130
    Hear, hear!!! I TOTALLY agree!
  7. by   Marie_LPN, RN
    It amazes me how some in congress are fascinated by the personal lives of others. A wild idea might be to propose ammendments on real issues, instead of trying to tell others how to live their personal lives.
  8. by   leslie :-D
    it's his way of maintaining control of a precarious time and is striving to keep glued together, the american image of unity, conformity and solidarity. he seems so desperate in maintaining his facade of calm. and yes kevin, i 100% am on your side.

  9. by   Ted
    I share your concerns too, Kevin.

    What is also sad is that a significant percentage of people would ALSO support such an amendment.

    At this point in time, I can only suggest one thing. Just as there is an organized effort in support of such an amendment, there should be an equally if not STRONGER movement to show support AGAINST such an amentment. We need to let our elected officials know (including the president) that this proposed amendment needs to "die a painful, embarassing death tomorrow on the Senate floor".

  10. by   fergus51
    What frustrates me is the way these people will waste time, knowing this will never pass, just to rile up voters. No one in their right mind thinks this has a snowball's chance in hell of becoming a reality! How about focusing on accomplishing things? It's just such an obvious election year ploy I want to barf.
  11. by   maureeno
    Swamp Gas

    next the Senate will take up flag burning.....
  12. by   kmchugh
    Quote from maureeno
    Swamp Gas

    next the Senate will take up flag burning.....
    You are right, it is swamp gas. It won't go anywhere. But it just irritates the snot out of me that they are wasting legislative time on this garbage. It is posturing for the electorate, as much as a "flag burning" amendment would be posturing.

    And I cannot describe the fury I feel because some of our elected representatives want to change the constitution from a document that recognizes rights into a document that limits them.

    And ultimately, I'm sick of seeing our elected representatives pandering to the ultra religious right as though they somehow have special, protected status in this country. As if we should accept laws based on their religious beliefs, because after all we all know that Jimmy Swaggart, Oral Roberts, and Pat Robertson are the only ones who can lead us to heaven.

    OK, so I'm ranting. But I'm sick of it.

    Kevin McHugh
  13. by   JWRN
    Agree with you Kevin. It is sad that anyone would want to limit the rights a specific group of people with a constitutional amendment. It will not pass the Senate of course. Yes they are wasting time trying to get this done. And Bush is using it for political gain. How sad, that he would want to use the personal lives of people for his own political agenda.
  14. by   lizmatt
    Well, now that it has gone to the senate I am happy that it was not passed, but absolutley disgusted that 48 senators voted in favor of the amendment.