Conservatives and Marriage

  1. Lost in the all the news about Iraq, Afghanistan, and Reagan's Death, it might be easy to miss the news about an impending divorce.

    Conservative pundit, Rush Limbaugh announces separation "pending amicable resolution" from his wife, Marta, of 10 years. It was a third marriage for each of them.

    Rush has long bragged about being an expert on women, railed against homosexual marriage, rallied people around the "family values" flag for ages. Along with such divorced men as Newt Gingerich, Ronald Reagan, etal, he has "defended" these values against the tyranny of the Right.

    Somehow, I am not surprised at the hypocrisy.

    Carolina
    (who is so lame that she cannot post a link...but there are plenty of them)
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  2. 65 Comments

  3. by   jemb
    I wonder how he defines 'amicable'.

    Struck me as curious that the breakup of his marriage came so soon after his rehab.
  4. by   Q.
    Actually I think the title of this thread should read
    Extreme Conservatives and Marriage.

    I identify myself as conservative in most of my beliefs (and even medical treatment!) and I find value in a strong family unit and all that goes with that. But that doesn't mean that maintaining that strong family unit can't mean divorce.

    There is a high divorce rate in this country, could be attributed to people's lack of committment about the concept - but on the other extreme are those from the 50's era who thought divorce shouldn't occur and women should just tolerate infidelity, etc all in the name of a stable family unit. Well how stable is it if there is infidelity, verbal abuse, etc?

    There are times when divorce is necessary and the right thing to do. And I'm still conservative.
  5. by   Nurse Ratched
    His rep announced it after the show ended on a Friday. I heard part of his show the following Monday and he made a big point out of saying that Marta wanted everyone to know that HE had asked for the divorce. I'm not sure what that was all about.

    Divorce is sad regardless.
    Last edit by Nurse Ratched on Jul 2, '04 : Reason: spelling
  6. by   Mkue
    I can't imagine being a celebrity or entertainer, Marriage can be difficult enough without all of the pressure from the press and media.

    Best wishes to anyone going through a divorce, whether they are Conservative or Liberal. In the big picture we are all just Human beings.
  7. by   Dixiedi
    Quote from Susy K
    Actually I think the title of this thread should read
    Extreme Conservatives and Marriage.

    I identify myself as conservative in most of my beliefs (and even medical treatment!) and I find value in a strong family unit and all that goes with that. But that doesn't mean that maintaining that strong family unit can't mean divorce.

    There is a high divorce rate in this country, could be attributed to people's lack of committment about the concept - but on the other extreme are those from the 50's era who thought divorce shouldn't occur and women should just tolerate infidelity, etc all in the name of a stable family unit. Well how stable is it if there is infidelity, verbal abuse, etc?

    There are times when divorce is necessary and the right thing to do. And I'm still conservative.
    Amen to that! I do not believe in divorce either, but once divorced I am. Every body here knows what a conservative I am. LOL Rush goes beyond conservative. The man is a total jerk that many of us cringe when he declares conservative believes.
    Just for the record,
    I also believe abortion is the correct option for many and required sterilization wouldn't hurt once in a while either.
    Another nonconservative believe is "gay family declarations" should be legal. We don't have to call it marriage. But then, marriage is when a man and woman commit to one another for life and that's not the way it is these days. So the semantics about marriage is all screwed up anyway!
    Back to topic. Just because a person is conservative, does not mean there aren't acceptions to "the conservative rule." Maybe a lot of the liberals would be more believable if they understood you don't hvae to go along with everything that comes out of the liberal camp.
  8. by   Q.
    Quote from Dixiedi
    Just because a person is conservative, does not mean there aren't acceptions to "the conservative rule."

    So true. An example: I'm pro-choice.
  9. by   traumaRUs
    Do you think the lines between conservative and liberal have kinda blurred over the years? So many of us have both liberal AND conservative viewpoints, depending on the topic. As one poster stated, "we are all human"
  10. by   KarenAR
    Quote from Dixiedi
    Back to topic. Just because a person is conservative, does not mean there aren't acceptions to "the conservative rule." Maybe a lot of the liberals would be more believable if they understood you don't hvae to go along with everything that comes out of the liberal camp.
    I think the topic was the hypocrisy of Rush and other high-profile conservatives, NOT the hypocrisy of conservatives as a whole (so please don't make general statements about liberals as a whole, either).

    Rush and other conservative leaders have often touted "family values," so it is a little hypocritical when they don't practice what they preach. What's disturbing is that they think that their OWN reasons for divorce are valid but other people's aren't. Maybe Joe Schmoe on the street had just as valid a reason.

    I won't judge Rush's, Newt's, or other conservative leaders' divorces, because I don't know anything about the state of their marriages. All I would like to see is that they grant the same benefit of the doubt to other people.

    Because...like mkue said...we're all just human beings!!!
  11. by   Q.
    Quote from KarenAR
    Rush and other conservative leaders have often touted "family values," so it is a little hypocritical when they don't practice what they preach.
    That depends on your perspective. As I tried to state earlier, touting and preserving family values CAN mean divorce. I know I'm not the only conservative who believes this.

    FWIW, I don't ever remember Rush painting so with a wide brush about divorce being a cut and dry, 100% always wrong. I wasn't a devout listener, but there was a period of time when I listened to him daily
  12. by   Mkue
    Quote from traumaRUs
    Do you think the lines between conservative and liberal have kinda blurred over the years? So many of us have both liberal AND conservative viewpoints, depending on the topic. As one poster stated, "we are all human"
    I totally agree the lines have blurred over the years. As a conservative and Catholic I'm NOT opposed to Divorce and I'm also Pro-choice and a firm believer in "birth control".
  13. by   fergus51
    Rush is a hypocrite. His drug use established that a while ago. That's the problem with making absolute statements like "All drug users should be locked up" or calling someone "just another dead doper". I hope his problems will serve to remind us that there are few absolutes in life and have taught him to have compassion for others. I sometimes wonder if these things happen to teach us.
  14. by   Mkue
    So what if Rush is a hypocrite?

    Are we forgetting that Rush is an entertainer? Much like Michael Moore, Rush is in the Entertainment business. They both are entitled to their opinions, we dont' have to agree. Rush isn't running for any office so his personal life should be of no concern to us right? He's an entertainer/talk show host. What's the big deal? I remember a time when Clintons affair while in the white house was "none of our business". It appears that some Conservatives are being singled out and their business is suddenly our business.

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