Columbia Prof Calls for Deaths of American Troops...

  1. columbia prof calls for deaths of american troops
    (fox news website)

    friday, march 28, 2003

    an academic furor was brewing friday over a columbia university professor who told thousands of students and faculty that he would like to see the united states defeated in iraq and suffer "a million mogadishus" -- referring to the 1993 ambush in somalia that killed 18 americans.

    the professor, nicholas de genova, told a "teach-in" on wednesday that "the only true heroes are those who find ways that help defeat the u.s. military." de genova also asserted americans who call themselves "patriots" are white supremacists.

    de genova's hopes for the defeat of the united states were cheered by the crowd of 3,000, according to newspaper reports. but his mention of the somali ambush -- "i personally would like to see a million mogadishus" -- was largely met with silence.

    a call friday to de genova, 35, was answered with a recording that said his voice mailbox was full.

    columbia university on friday issued a statement that distanced the school from his comments but did not condemn them.

    "assistant professor nicholas de genova was speaking as an individual at a teach-in. he was exercising his right to free speech. his statement does not in any way represent the views of columbia university."

    history professor eric foner, who helped organize the teach-in and spoke after de genova, said friday: "i disagreed strongly and i said so. if i had known what he was going to say i would have been reluctant to have him speak."

    foner said de genova was a last-minute invitee, was just one of about 25 speakers and "did not represent the general tone of the event, which was highly educational."

    "i thought that was completely uncalled for," foner was quoted as saying, referring to de genova's allusion to the mogadishu ambush and firefight, known for the graphic image of a slain american soldier being dragged through the streets. "we do not desire the deaths of american soldiers."

    de genova's particular expertise on the subject of the war in iraq is not clear. his dissertation, entitled "working the boundaries, making the difference: race and space in mexican chicago," explores "socio-cultural processes "implicated in the mutually constitutive productions of racialized difference and urban space in the experiences of mexican migrant factory workers in chicago," according to a stanford university web site.

    "de genova's research posits a mexican chicago as a standpoint of critique from which to interrogate the u.s. nation-state, political economy, racialized citizenship, and immigration law," said the site.


    this angers me....to me this "prof" is way out of line. you can be against the war, but comments like this make a person no better than saddam. sometimes, i just don't get it.
    Last edit by deespoohbear on Mar 28, '03
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  2. 26 Comments

  3. by   Caveman
    I'm all for free speech, but this A-hole went WAY over the line. Let him go to Iraq and express some anti-government free speech. I bet he wouldn't like the results.
  4. by   molecule
    this guy idiotically hurts the cause of those against this war.
  5. by   pickledpepperRN
    I don't understand it either.
    Hope he was just being confrontational and waaaay over the line.

    Many patriots are neither white nor believe one skin deep color is supreme.

    The link below shows the fine faces of those who died already.
    How could anyone want any more deaths?

    http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/ira...ies/index.html
  6. by   deespoohbear
    I don't want more deaths for either side of this war. Yes, I know Saddam has to be stopped or there will be more tragic deaths but to wish death upon our own American troops (and in my opinion our allies) is the sign of a cold hearted, evil spirited person. I agree with the poster who said he could pack his bags and go to Iraq if he doesn't like the climate over here in the states. I, for one would be happy to help him pack!!
  7. by   rncountry
    This is the **** that I was talking about in another thread regarding what goes on in left leaning colleges. For the college to not condemn what was said just blows my mind. What an ignorant fool.
    If anyone gets and email address for either the professor or the school let us know ok?
  8. by   Mkue
    I agree Helen and then some

    I actually feel sympathy towards protesters who have someone in their corner such as De Genova making statements such as these.
  9. by   SharonH, RN
    This guy is certifiable.
  10. by   Q.
    Originally posted by rncountry
    This is the **** that I was talking about in another thread regarding what goes on in left leaning colleges. For the college to not condemn what was said just blows my mind. What an ignorant fool.
    If anyone gets and email address for either the professor or the school let us know ok?
    Yup.
    This crap went on here at Marquette University a couple weeks ago. A memo was sent to all faculty coaching them on how to handle the war with students. The memo was very derogatory, stating that those who agree with the war are misguided and ignorant because they were most likely raised in small lower-middle class neighborhoods, and that it's the educator's responsibiity to show them the "correct" way to think.

    I am NOT making this up either. The eliticism that generates from these liberal colleges just blows my mind.
  11. by   deespoohbear
    Originally posted by Susy K
    Yup.
    This crap went on here at Marquette University a couple weeks ago. A memo was sent to all faculty coaching them on how to handle the war with students. The memo was very derogatory, stating that those who agree with the war are misguided and ignorant because they were most likely raised in small lower-middle class neighborhoods, and that it's the educator's responsibiity to show them the "correct" way to think.

    I am NOT making this up either. The eliticism that generates from these liberal colleges just blows my mind.

    Oh, I would be ticked if I was a student at that school. (Or if I was paying big bucks for my kid to attend that school). I go to college for an education, not for to have someone (or some institution's) political feelings forced down my throat. What are some of these colleges thinking?
  12. by   Furball
    So close to 80% of the American public are "misguided" and "ignorant"????
  13. by   rncountry
    Apparently, Furball. Didn't realize how ignorant I was.
    On a sad sidenote, my oldest is not planning on going back to college for his sophmore year. He informed me of this last week, part of it that he hates living in a big town and to be frank part of it is because he is unhappy with the attitude of some professors he has encountered. It's made him swing into a total country outlook I think. Poor kid doesn't know what he is doing or why. He will finish this semester than come home. I hope that come next year he will at least take courses at the local community college while he figures out what he wants to do with his life. At this point I don't even know how to react to all this. Guess we'll get him home and go from there.
  14. by   Q.
    Furball,
    According to some people - yes. That we can't think for ourselves and we're just going along with what our government says.

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