Christian Democrats poised to win in Germany

  1. AP Article:
    http://www.breitbart.com/news/2005/09/17/D8CM2HRO0.html

    Angela Merkel, a member of the Christian Democrat party, is poised to make Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder part of the 11.4% unemployed.

    "A poll by the Forsa institute, carried out between Monday and Friday, put support for the Christian Democrats at between 41 percent and 43 percent, with the Free Democrats between 7 percent and 8 percent _ possibly enough to form a majority together."

    "If the Christian Democrats and Free Democrats are able to form a coalition government, it is widely believed Merkel would seek to strengthen relations with the United States"

    There's only so much 'We need to be just a little more socialist' you can take before you start to look at a model that works. America Works. It's no surprise that others are looking to copy.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
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  2. 89 Comments

  3. by   Roy Fokker
    ALLRIGHT!

    Long been a supporter of the CDU

    "Tse-day-oo!" "Tse-day-oo!" "Tse-day-oo!"
  4. by   jnette
    Quote from Roy Fokker
    ALLRIGHT!

    Long been a supporter of the CDU

    "Tse-day-oo!" "Tse-day-oo!" "Tse-day-oo!"
    Heh heh.... Roy, you bring back a lot of vivid memories. :chuckle
  5. by   Roy Fokker
    Well I used to say "Che-Day-oo" but figured I'd rather be gramatically correct than fancy
  6. by   Brotherbob
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    America Works. It's no surprise that others are looking to copy.
    If the countries of the world were copies of US this planet would be ruined and blewn up before Thanksgiving
    Last edit by Brotherbob on Sep 17, '05
  7. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from Brotherbob
    If the countries of the world were copies of US this planet would be ruined and blewn up before Thanksgiving
    Absolutely not. This is a great and good Nation.

    My greatest blessing is my birthright as an American.

    I couldn't disagree with you more. If the countries of the World were copies of the US, the World would be free and prosperous.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on Sep 17, '05
  8. by   Brotherbob
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    Absolutely not. This is a great and good Nation.

    I couldn't disagree with you more.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    I have to explain myself. I mean that US are using way too much of this planets resources, that is true for the developed world in general, but particularly US. There is absolutely no way this planet could survive if all of us consumed resources like US. I also believe US foreign politics has been way too violent lately.

    That said, I like Americans and I dont mind visiting US, and have done so many times. US and Europe need to have better relations but I like to have US where it is, not here.
    Last edit by Brotherbob on Sep 17, '05
  9. by   fergus51
    Interesting.... I think a lot of countries have done well without "copying" the US. I think one of my greatest blessings was being born outside the US because it makes for a broader view when you're outside the fishbowl.
  10. by   jnette
    Quote from fergus51
    Interesting.... I think a lot of countries have done well without "copying" the US. I think one of my greatest blessings was being born outside the US because it makes for a broader view when you're outside the fishbowl.
    Certainly agree with you on this, Fergus.
  11. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from Brotherbob
    I have to explain myself. I mean that US are using way too much of this planets resources, that is true for the developed world in general, but particularly US. There is absolutely no way this planet could survive if all of us consumed resources like US.
    Possibly. But most of the resources being 'used up' in fact, aren't being used up all that fast, and more importantly, are 'transitional resources'.

    They got us to this point, where the technology is coming on line to take us 'to the next level' - much less resource using, much less polluting energy and deriviatives.

    It's coming. But it takes first world technology like the US and Europe to get there. You have to spend some to make some.

    Anyway, that wasn't the major thrust of the thread. I made that comment as an aside because of the internal politics Stateside that suggest the World is repelled by Bush's America. In fact, many Gov'ts are on the verge of rejecting Anti-American Rhetoric.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  12. by   Tweety
    Quote from Brotherbob
    I have to explain myself. I mean that US are using way too much of this planets resources, that is true for the developed world in general, but particularly US. There is absolutely no way this planet could survive if all of us consumed resources like US. I also believe US foreign politics has been way too violent lately.

    That said, I like Americans and I dont mind visiting US, and have done so many times. US and Europe need to have better relations but I like to have US where it is, not here.
    Good point and well taken. Most of us in the US like the rest of the world where it is, and like it here, so I can understand what your saying.

    But you're a very small country, so add you with all of Europe, to equal the size of the US, and you're consuming quite a bit of the worlds resources as well, as your standard of living is equal or greater than ours.

    I humbly admit Sweden probably does a much much much better job with the environment than the US and you should be proud.
  13. by   fergus51
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    .

    Anyway, that wasn't the major thrust of the thread. I made that comment as an aside because of the internal politics Stateside that suggest the World is repelled by Bush's America. In fact, many Gov'ts are on the verge of rejecting Anti-American Rhetoric.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Electing a christian or less socialist party does not mean they find Bush's America appealing at all. The fastest way for a politician to lose an election in many countries would be to say they admire Bush and want to emulate him. There are a lot of similarities between Europe/Canada/Australia/NZ and America, but the differences are so important to most non-Americans and I can't imagine that changing any time soon. Canada is probably the most similar to the US, but still if you ask a Canadian what it means to be Canadian they're likely to tell you how they are different from Americans. It's sad in a way. So I can't really imagine a real change in European attitudes towards Bush or the US in general.
  14. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from fergus51
    Electing a christian or less socialist party does not mean they find Bush's America appealing at all. The fastest way for a politician to lose an election in many countries would be to say they admire Bush and want to emulate him. There are a lot of similarities between Europe/Canada/Australia/NZ and America, but the differences are so important to most non-Americans and I can't imagine that changing any time soon. Canada is probably the most similar to the US, but still if you ask a Canadian what it means to be Canadian they're likely to tell you how they are different from Americans. It's sad in a way. So I can't really imagine a real change in European attitudes towards Bush or the US in general.
    I'm not disagreeing with you, per se.

    But, America has been and is a powerful ally to Germany. And the America Bashing of the current Gov't is a part, however small, of their being down in the polls.

    I'm not saying that the Christian Democrats are "embracing" Bush. I'm saying that our relationship with Europe is bigger than that and bashing America isn't all that great a political strategy, either.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.

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