China celebrates 50+ years of communist rule.

  1. Bring out the champagne.


    http://apnews.myway.com/article/20051001/D8CV8FK80.html
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  2. 14 Comments

  3. by   Jessy_RN
    To each it's own
  4. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from Future_RN_Jess
    To each it's own
    That would be true if they really got to choose.

    steph
  5. by   pickledpepperRN
    Quote from stevielynn
    That would be true if they really got to choose.

    steph
    :yeahthat:
  6. by   Tweety
    Quote from stevielynn
    That would be true if they really got to choose.

    steph

    We probably should just overtake them to liberate the poor Chinese folks who really want to be like America. They have Walmart there you know.

    Just kidding. China is an interesting case of communism that sees the value in capitalism.

    The world and US economy now hinges on what happens in China due to Western countries trillion dollar investments there.
  7. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from Tweety

    The world and US economy now hinges on what happens in China due to Western countries trillion dollar investments there.
    That is true.

    But the Chinese government can still determine the size of your family and abortion rates are high due to the government messing around in people's private lives.

    That is not freedom. Or choice.

    steph
  8. by   jnette
    Quote from Tweety
    The world and US economy now hinges on what happens in China due to Western countries trillion dollar investments there.

    You are soooooooooooooooooooo correct, and I find this to be EXTREMELY troubling. China owns a HUGE part of this country now due to our tremendous finaincial debt to the Chinese. And when in debt up to our ears, we tend to kiss butt to those we are indebted to.

    I'm keeping a very close eye on this whole "China Connection".. truthfully, it sacres the bejeebers out of me.. thinking longterm, down the road, here. :uhoh21:
  9. by   Roy Fokker
    Quote from Tweety
    China is an interesting case of communism that sees the value in capitalism.
    I was just going to say that.

    China is communist only in name. What's really on the ground is Crony-Capitalism and run away 'aristocracy' where your worth is measured through connections in The Party.

    In anycase, I agree with the "To Each His Own". What the chinese do is their business.
  10. by   z's playa
    Party party party

    I dunno..I have a serious problem with the number of people they execute each year. Something like 12,000

    I pray that there will be no conflict with China as you (USA) iron out your money problems. There's one war I wouldn't want to see. (not that i like any others either)

    Z
  11. by   jnette
    Quote from z's playa

    I pray that there will be no conflict with China as you (USA) iron out your money problems. There's one war I wouldn't want to see. (not that i like any others either)

    Z
    My point exactly. So we continue to allow them to own more and more of us. Those who own us will also oppress us. I don't like it.
  12. by   talaxandra
    Quote from z's playa
    I have a serious problem with the number of people they execute each year. Something like 12,000
    You're not wrong - that's outrageous.
    Comprehensive death penalty statistics remain a state secret, although local jurisdictions will announce executions when that serves a political purpose. Human rights groups, however, say China executes more people than the rest of the world's governments combined.
    Amnesty International found evidence of 3,400 death sentences carried out in 2004 but says the real number may be closer to 10,000 a year. This compares with 59 in the U.S. in 2004. More than 70 countries use the death penalty, but most apply it only in the case of a few extremely violent crimes. China executes people for 68 offenses, many nonviolent, including smuggling, tax evasion, corruption, "endangering national security" and separatism, which includes advocating Tibetan or Taiwanese independence.
    The state-run press has called for a "kill fewer, kill carefully" approach, perhaps as early as next year. More broadly, the Communist Party hopes a credible legal system will help channel public frustration through the courts rather than into public demonstrations.
    And I can understand concern about limitations on family size, the 'missing girls', and state-not-quite-mandated abortion. OTOH, even with China's One Child policy (which critics say has not had a significant effect on population growth, which started to decline in the decade before it's introduction in 1979 http://www.overpopulation.com/faq/Po...one_child.html), they have a population 4.5 times larger than the US, on almost the same amount of land.
  13. by   Tweety
    Quote from stevielynn
    That is true.

    But the Chinese government can still determine the size of your family and abortion rates are high due to the government messing around in people's private lives.

    That is not freedom. Or choice.

    steph

    I wasn't commenting on their freedom. They are not a free country by no means. I was commenting on our the Western economy hinges on theirs and how capitalistic their economy is now. If their economy collapses or takes a downturn, it's going to directly effect the economies of the USA, Japan, and Western Europe (Austrailia too), and in a big way. We have long treasured them as a market for our goods and services, and have thus invested our future there. A billion consumers in a growing economy with more and more money to spend, what westerner could resist?

    Isn't it interesting how the west overlooks their crimes against humanity in the interest of economy?
    Last edit by Tweety on Oct 2, '05
  14. by   Roy Fokker
    IIRC, the Chinese communists execute the convict and then bill the family of the convict for expenses.

    Now THAT's cruel.

    I can't recall where I read this though... but I remember reading it somewhere.

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