Cheney's top aide quits after indictment --scandal grows

  1. From CNN (cnn.com):

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, resigned on Friday after a federal grand jury indicted him on charges related to the CIA leak investigation.....
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  2. 10 Comments

  3. by   VivaLasViejas
    It's been a long time in coming, but Bush's house of cards is collapsing. This is exactly what you get when you concentrate all the power in the hands of one party.........they get greedy, they become arrogant, and then they start making big mistakes.

    Don't get me wrong: I think something similar would've happened had the Democrats been in charge of everything. Having total control just intoxicates politicians, and you know what they say---"absolute power corrupts absolutely".

    One thing's for sure: I don't EVER want to hear another word about how bad Clinton was for the country, especially not from Republicans. Seems to me they ought to clean up their own fouled nest, and learn some humility instead of pointing fingers.......but that's just my humble opinion.
  4. by   fergus51
    Lying under oath? Where have I heard that before?
  5. by   Roy Fokker
    Uhhh.... it's an indictment, not a conviction.

    I have no great love for this administration - but let us see how it pans out.

    And let us hope it is all fair and impartial.

    Justice. Not vengence.
  6. by   rn/writer
    Quote from Roy Fokker
    Uhhh.... it's an indictment, not a conviction.

    I have no great love for this administration - but let us see how it pans out.

    And let us hope it is all fair and impartial.

    Justice. Not vengence.
    Thank you for saying this.

    I'm sure we've all heard the old saw that an aggressive prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich.

    It's nice to hear someone wish for impartiality and fairness rather than partisan angling from either side.

    Thanks again for sounding a note of civility.
  7. by   Roy Fokker
    I also think it would be unfair if I didn't say the following:

    I think they are guilty. But that doesn't matter - this isn't a "People's Court".

    I also wish it to be impartial because I wish the damned Justice System to be so. We've had enough of 'political one-upman-ship' to last us a lifetime.

    I also want to show these idiots that they are experiencing/enjoying the same rights that they are denying the PoW/EnemyCombatants/Terroritsts (choose your label. The law doesn't discern) are being denied even today at Gitmo. Does anybody even remember Jose Padilla?



    There has been a lot said about this particular prosecutor. From what I've read - he has indicted as many Republicans as Democrats. While this might say that he is "impartial" it doesn't necessarily mean he is "right".

    Ofcourse, noone knows what is "rights' untill the verdicts comes out. I am always anxious/wary about a potential witch-hunt but at the same time, I realise that not all political cases are necessarily "with-hunts".

    But I do agree with you RN/Writer - I hope justice is played out.

    For the good of everybody concerned.



    regards,
    Roy



    PS: Although my cynical mind tells me that there is going to be no "justice". Whatever the jury finds - for or against - my heart tells me that there is going to be millions spent on either refuting or supporting whatever jury decision is made. It's sad really, in more ways than one.

    Our people cannot live by each other and feel the need to resort to gimickry of this sort to resolve contentious issues.

    As I said, sad.
  8. by   jnette
    Quote from Roy Fokker
    PS: Although my cynical mind tells me that there is going to be no "justice". Whatever the jury finds - for or against - my heart tells me that there is going to be millions spent on either refuting or supporting whatever jury decision is made. It's sad really, in more ways than one.
    Agree with that, Roy.

    I certainly feel no need to gloat, as nearly ALL politicians seem to fall into this trap more often than we'd like.

    Nonetheless, it IS a sad state of affairs for the COUNTRY.

    As smart and impeccable as he is about things, it amazes me that he told such obvious untruths (and yes, I do believe he is guilty as well). All I can figure is that he was intent on portecting the VP.. at whatever cost. Makes me wonder WHY???

    Guess time and history will tell hte story... then again, maybe not.

    What DOES bother me about all this and other recent happenings in the White House is that this is occuring in the very administration which SO touted its high moral ground, its ethics and its values... and that it wished to clean house of all the previous administration's lies and lack of moral standards.

    Hey... ALL are capable of dirtying the laundry. No one party has a monopoly on virtue, none are squeaky clean, and shouting it from the rooftops of this administration does not make it so.

    A bit of humility would now be in order, methinks. EVEN IF Libby is only "charged" and not yet convicted.
  9. by   SharonH, RN
    Quote from rn/writer
    It's nice to hear someone wish for impartiality and fairness rather than partisan angling from either side.

    I remember wishing for it many, many times during the 1990s.


    I really don't see anything partisan about this indictment although the actions which led to the investigation and indictment surely were partisan. If Scooter didn't lie, then he should be acquitted, pure and simple. If he did, then he has to pay the price just like Martha and Lil' Kim.
  10. by   SmilingBluEyes
    You know what I felt when I first heard this? Anger.

    Anger that such processes have to take place. That we cannot seem to trust our gov't officials at any level and on any side of the aisle. It's about a lot more than Bush-bashing or Republican scandal----it's a NATIONAL Scandal. One of which I am ashamed.
  11. by   SmilingBluEyes
    Quote from SharonH, RN
    I remember wishing for it many, many times during the 1990s.


    I really don't see anything partisan about this indictment although the actions which led to the investigation and indictment surely were partisan. If Scooter didn't lie, then he should be acquitted, pure and simple. If he did, then he has to pay the price just like Martha and Lil' Kim.
    EXACTAMUNDO, Sharon. Excellent post.
  12. by   pickledpepperRN
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