Can you believe this crap?

  1. Just goes to show that religious fanatics are all looneys, no matter what their religion.

    God Gave U.S. 'What We Deserve,' Falwell Says

    By John F. Harris
    Washington Post Staff Writer
    Friday, September 14, 2001; Page C03

    Television evangelists Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, two of the most prominent voices of the religious right, said liberal civil liberties groups, feminists, homosexuals and abortion rights supporters bear partial responsibility for Tuesday's terrorist attacks because their actions have turned God's anger against America.

    "God continues to lift the curtain and allow the enemies of America to give us probably what we deserve," said Falwell, appearing yesterday on the Christian Broadcasting Network's "700 Club," hosted by Robertson.

    "Jerry, that's my feeling," Robertson responded. "I think we've just seen the antechamber to terror. We haven't even begun to see what they can do to the major population."

    Falwell said the American Civil Liberties Union has "got to take a lot of blame for this," again winning Robertson's agreement: "Well, yes."

    Then Falwell broadened his blast to include the federal courts and others who he said were "throwing God out of the public square." He added: "The abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked. And when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad. I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way -- all of them who have tried to secularize America -- I point the finger in their face and say, 'You helped this happen.' "

    People for the American Way transcribed the broadcast and denounced the comments as running directly counter to President Bush's call for national unity. Ralph G. Neas, the liberal group's president, called the remarks "absolutely inappropriate and irresponsible."

    Robertson and others on the religious right gave critical backing to Bush last year when he was battling for the GOP presidential nomination. A White House official called the remarks "inappropriate" and added, "The president does not share those views."

    Falwell was unrepentant, saying in an interview that he was "making a theological statement, not a legal statement."

    "I put all the blame legally and morally on the actions of the terrorist," he said. But he said America's "secular and anti-Christian environment left us open to our Lord's [decision] not to protect. When a nation deserts God and expels God from the culture . . . the result is not good."

    Robertson was not available for comment, a spokeswoman said. But she released a statement echoing the remarks he made on his show. An ACLU spokeswoman said the group "will not dignify the Falwell-Robertson remarks with a comment."
  2. 38 Comments

  3. by   soundsLikesirens
    Coming from Pat Robertson............? YES
  4. by   aimeee
    Yep, no surprises there, considering the source.
  5. by   CEN35
  6. by   P_RN
    Today (Friday) in his portion of the National Cathedral Ceremony, a very frail Rev. Billy Graham said......

    People ask how could God allow this to happen......and he said.....I don't know the answer.

    When he stepped down from the pulpit....the congregation stood and gave an ovation. United in grief and understanding.

    "Yes, our nation has been attacked," he told a hushed crowd of thousands, some fighting to hold back tears. "But now we have a choice whether to implode and disintegrate emotionally and spiritually as a people and a nation, or whether we choose to become stronger through all of the struggle."

    If Billy Graham doesn't understand the WHY......then any speculation..and that is all it is on the part of Fallwell and just that: Their opinions.

    Folks this is AMERICA and we are entitled to free speech. Jerry and Pat are too. But I place more faith in the life and words of Rev. Graham...uniting, not devisive........I hold Billy Graham in a higher esteem.
    Last edit by P_RN on Sep 15, '01
  7. by   KellyandtheBoys
    Thank You, P_RN.

    I like your reply to this post.
  8. by   OC_An Khe
    Yes Jerry and Pat have the right to express their views. IMO its their views that are grounded in fear and hatred that are the problem. Democracy has to be tolerant of the views of others,both political and religious, in order to work. Those two individuals are intolerant and unaccepting of other peoples differing views, they are the real threat to the American way of life.
  9. by   oramar
    Jesus released us from all of that. Yes human being suffer the consequences of their actions but it is not God doing it to us.
  10. by   bagladyrn
    To my way of thinking, Falwell and Robertson are the American equivalent of the religious fanatics who instigated and encouraged the attack on the United States. Yes, the have the right in this country to speak their thoughts, but they should have the sense and compassion to know when to remain silent.
  11. by   frustratedRN
    thats not an interview its an ad for altheimers
  12. by   Peeps Mcarthur
    Everything those type of "evangilists" do is to raise money.
    I'm willing to bet the next thing out of their mouths, or nearly, was that they need God's people to "give all they can to try to reverse those evil forces"........."the phone lines are open, operators standing by".

    That's just a different form of terrorism in my oppinion.
  13. by   BrandyBSN
    keep in Mine Jerry Falwell's recent history!

    He was the preacher that picketed Matthew Shepard's funeral. holding signs that said things like "God Hates ****", "Aids-God's punishment to ****"... yeah, you get the idea. Guess he skipped the verse at 1 John 4:8 "He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love. "

    But it does suprise me that Pat agreed with him...

    Here is my thought in all of this:

    John 16:33
    These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world.

  14. by   dtweed
    Those men are wrong. God loves us all and he will take care of us. We are human and we make mistakes, but God forgives with love. If people like this continue to condemn those who are different , then they will have to answer to God. There are many things I don't believe are right in this world such as homosexuality, and abortion. but I do not condemn the people who practice this. I pray that I love and accept them as God does. We need more people to love and not condemn. We also need more people to be tolerant of each others shortcomings in the work place. I say I pick and choose my fights because I want my energy to be put to good. I will be behind the fight we are facing now with all my energy and prays. if they still needed nurses I would be on my way.