Caging is an illegal technique used to suppress opposition votes

  1. Soldiers? students? who was 'challenged' at the polls?

    The Goods on Goodling and the Keys to the Kingdom
    By Greg Palast

    This Monica revealed something hotter --- much hotter --- than a stained blue dress.
    In her opening testimony yesterday before the House Judiciary Committee, Monica Goodling, the blonde-ling underling to Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and Department of Justice Liaison to the White House, dropped The Big One....

    And the Committee members didn't even know it. Goodling testified that Gonzales' Chief of Staff, Kyle Sampson, perjured himself, lying to the committee in earlier testimony. The lie: Sampson denied Monica had told him about Tim Griffin's "involvement in 'caging' voters" in 2004....

    ...Here's how caging worked, and along with Griffin's thoughtful emails themselves you'll understand it all in no time.
    The Bush-Cheney operatives sent hundreds of thousands of letters marked "Do not forward" to voters' homes. Letters returned ("caged") were used as evidence to block these voters' right to cast a ballot on grounds they were registered at phony addresses. Who were the evil fakers? Homeless men, students on vacation and --- you got to love this --- American soldiers.
    Oh yeah: most of them are Black voters....
    http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/052507J.shtml

    Caging is an illegal technique used to suppress opposition votes.

    When caging, a political group compiles lists of names of registered voters they think will vote for an opposing candidate. They then send a piece of mail to each of those names requiring a signature. If the mail is not signed, it can be used to challenge that person's registration, possibly invalidating their registration altogether. This effectively steals a person's right to vote without them even knowing until they try to submit their ballot. Palast said this could block the vote of - among others - students studying abroad, people serving overseas in the military, people living in homeless shelters, or people who just don't want to sign for a strange letter.

    Palast said that the majority of people on this list were minorities who are several times more likely to have their votes discarded than white Americans....

    ..."This stuff about all the votes being thrown away because people were overseas really hit home because I have a friend who's about to be sent back (into overseas military service) in September even though she's supposed to be out in August."...

    http://www.dailyemerald.com/home/ind...0-a9f1f5185b51
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  3. by   CHATSDALE
    does anyone really believe that votes are cast out..what if they wee being cast for the people 'doing the caging' how do you tell the occupation or the color of the people on the voters list?
    maybe bush-cheny caused the big rain the other night
  4. by   pickledpepperRN
    To see and hear testimony go to VIDEO / AUDIO - "RECENT PROGRAMS " and click: House Judiciary Full Cmte. Hearing on the U.S. Attorneys Investigation - AM Session (5/23/2007)
    http://www.c-span.org/
    The "Caging Issue" is at 41.45.

    Certain zip codes tend to have a preponderence of voters registered as one party or another.

    Caging by political parties or campaigns is illegal.
  5. by   Simplepleasures
    Quote from CHATSDALE
    does anyone really believe that votes are cast out..what if they wee being cast for the people 'doing the caging' how do you tell the occupation or the color of the people on the voters list?
    maybe bush-cheny caused the big rain the other night
    Hopefully the truth will come to light in the next weeks and the evidence of this and other illegal "dirty tricks" will be uncontroversial. I wonder how much of the tax payers dollars were used for this illegal scheme. Maybe it will mean more to some folks if they can see it in dollars and cents.
    Last edit by Simplepleasures on May 26, '07
  6. by   pickledpepperRN
    More recent articles.

    Controversial U.S. Attorney Tim Griffin Resigns, Plans To Pursue Private Sector Work
    June 1, 2007 10:59 a.m. EST

    Washington, DC (AHN) - The controversy over U.S. attorneys continues with the resignation of interim U.S. attorney Tim Griffin effective Friday. Griffin is the former White House aide whose interim appointment to the attorney's post for the Eastern District of Arkansas ignited more outrage over the firings of eight U.S. attorneys by the Bush administration.
    Griffin, a Karl Rove protégé, was appointed six months ago without Senate confirmation as the U.S. attorney in Little Rock to replace the ousted attorney....

    http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7007517427
    BBC Reporter Has Rove Office Emails

    Goodling/Sampson Obstruction of Justice evidence?
    The BBC reporter explained that 'vote caging' is a crime; Tim Griffin directed it; Karl Rove, Goodling and Sampson knew it, yet Rove demanded the appointment of Griffin as the US Attorney for Arkansas.
    'Caging' was a 2004 Bush-Cheney campaign scheme to challenge, on false evidence, the right to vote of tens of thousand of Black voters.
    Was Tim Griffin involved? Palast showed, on camera, the email he intercepted from the Bush campaign, "Subject: caging," written by Griffin himself, making clear that Griffin was not just involved, but the director of this vote fixing scheme....

    ...Here's how caging works: letters were sent "Do Not Forward" to voters at home addresses. When the letters were returned to sender ("caged"), the voter's right to vote was challenged. The letters, however, were targeted at African-American homeless men, students-and soldiers send overseas-all legal voters who, because they were shipped to Iraq or for other reasons, were not at their home address. BBC obtained 50 'caging' lists with 70,000 voters including large groups of servicemen.
    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0705/S00526.htm
    US Attorney resigns following Conyers' request for BBC documents
    by Greg Palast
    June 2, 2007

    Tim Griffin, formerly right hand man to Karl Rove, resigned Thursday as US Attorney for Arkansas hours after BBC Television 'Newsnight' reported that Congressman John Conyers requested the network's evidence on Griffin's involvement in 'caging voters.' Greg Palast, reporting for BBC Newsnight, obtained a series of confidential emails from the 2004 Bush-Cheney campaign. In these emails, Griffin, then the GOP Deputy Communications Director, transmitted so-called 'caging lists' of voters to state party leaders....

    http://www.freepress.org/departments...y/19/2007/2619
  7. by   Myxel67
    Quote from CHATSDALE
    does anyone really believe that votes are cast out..what if they wee being cast for the people 'doing the caging' how do you tell the occupation or the color of the people on the voters list?
    maybe bush-cheny caused the big rain the other night

    ABSOLUTELY! If there's a lie left to be told, a scheme left to to be pulled, or a chad left to be hung, the Bush administration will try it if it suits their agenda. GWB deserves to be impeached.
  8. by   oramar
    I never heard of this and I still don't quite understand what was going on.
  9. by   pickledpepperRN
    Certified letters are sent to selected voters. If the person is not at home to sign for it because they work during mail delivery hours, live at a homeless shelter, are away at school, or in the military the letter is returned. Then these voters are told that they are not authorized to vote based on the returned letter. If they vote absentee their ballot is discarded. If they try to vote they are turned away at the polls.

    This is called "caging". It is illegal with regard to elections. The Republican party was guilty of caging in the 2004 election.

    Republicans prevented more than 350,000 voters in Ohio from casting ballots or having their votes counted -- enough to have put John Kerry in the White House.
    ROBERT F. KENNEDY JR.Posted Jun 01, 2006

    ''I'm afraid this is going to scare these people half to death, and they are never going to show up on Election Day,'' Barb Tuckerman, director of the Sandusky Board of Elections, told local reporters. ''Many of them are young people who have registered for the first time. I've called some of these people, and they are perfectly legitimate.''

    On October 27th, ruling that the effort likely violated both the ''constitutional right to due process and constitutional right to vote,'' U.S. District Judge Susan Dlott put a halt to the GOP challenge -- but not before tens of thousands of new voters received notices claiming they were improperly registered. Some election officials in the state illegally ignored Dlott's ruling, stripping hundreds of voters from the rolls. In Columbus and elsewhere, challenged registrants were never notified that the court had cleared them to vote.

    On October 29th, a federal judge found that the Republican Party had violated the court orders from the Eighties that barred it from caging.

    ''The return of mail does not implicate fraud,'' the court affirmed, and the disenfranchisement effort illegally targeted ''precincts where minority voters predominate, interfering with and discouraging voters from voting in those districts.'' Nor were such caging efforts limited to Ohio: The GOP also targeted hundreds of thousands of urban voters in the battleground states of Florida, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin....

    http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...ction_stolen/2
    http://www.buzzflash.com/contributor.../con06219.html
  10. by   pickledpepperRN
    Another article:

    What the heck is vote caging, and why should we care?
    By Dahlia Lithwick
    Posted Thursday, May 31, 2007
    ...Vote caging is an illegal trick to suppress minority voters (who tend to vote Democrat) by getting them knocked off the voter rolls if they fail to answer registered mail sent to homes they aren't living at (because they are, say, at college or at war). The Republican National Committee reportedly stopped the practice following a consent decree in a 1986 case....

    ..."The Bush-Cheney operatives sent hundreds of thousands of letters marked "Do not forward" to voters' homes. Letters returned ("caged") were used as evidence to block these voters' right to cast a ballot on grounds they were registered at phony addresses.
    Who were the evil fakers? Homeless men, students on vacation and—you got to love this—American soldiers. Oh yeah: most of them are Black voters.
    Why weren't these African-American voters home when the Republican letters arrived? The homeless men were on park benches, the students were on vacation—and the soldiers were overseas."... Greg Palast, BBC

    ...From the point of view of the ongoing DoJ scandal, perhaps what's most urgent about the vote-caging claims is that they go a long, long way toward explaining why Karl Rove and Harriet Miers were so determined to get Griffin seated in the Arkansas U.S. Attorney's office, and to do so without a confirmation hearing. If, as the Justice Department has continued to insist, Griffin was eminently qualified for the position, why did he need to be spared the hearing at all costs? And once it became clear that he would undergo a hearing, why did Griffin sideline himself with the colorful observation that undergoing Senate confirmation would be "like volunteering to stand in front of a firing squad in the middle of a three-ring circus?" Griffin—who is now in job talks with the Fred Thompson campaign—sure looks like a guy hiding something, and if vote caging is that something, it becomes even more interesting that the White House was pushing him forward. ...

    http://www.slate.com/id/2167284/pagenum/all/#page_start
    http://www.slate.com/id/2167284/
  11. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Of course, the Democrat Underground also recently alleged that the Republicans, who can and do steal every election they want to steal, "allowed" the Dems to win in '06 so they could get them on record as voting for a clean funding bill, thereby 'hanging' the Iraq war on the Dems before they use that dirt to steal the White House again, in '08.

    Well, I'm all for being part of the political process that is able to 'steal' elections at will. Yippee, and pass the votes.

    Anyway, it beats the alternative, say, for example, dead people in Chicago carrying the election for Kennedy. . .

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  12. by   Roy Fokker
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    Of course, the Democrat Underground
    Missin' a few letters there, Timothy?


    Haven't seen you in a while
  13. by   pickledpepperRN
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    Of course, the Democrat Underground also recently alleged that the Republicans, who can and do steal every election they want to steal, "allowed" the Dems to win in '06 so they could get them on record as voting for a clean funding bill, thereby 'hanging' the Iraq war on the Dems before they use that dirt to steal the White House again, in '08.

    Well, I'm all for being part of the political process that is able to 'steal' elections at will. Yippee, and pass the votes.

    Anyway, it beats the alternative, say, for example, dead people in Chicago carrying the election for Kennedy. . .

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    I know nothing about that underground you reger to. Is there a link? Are they credible?
    Anywas just because the Daley machine cheated 47 years ago does not make it OK in the 21st century.
    And you know it.
    If you are just trying to start troube lets do "great apes versus Neanderthal"
  14. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from spacenurse
    I know nothing about that underground you reger to. Is there a link? Are they credible?
    Anywas just because the Daley machine cheated 47 years ago does not make it OK in the 21st century.
    And you know it.
    If you are just trying to start troube lets do "great apes versus Neanderthal"
    The simple solution to questioning the legitimacy of registered voters is to require a photo ID to vote.

    Otherwise, who's cheating who? Republicans for questioning the legitimacy of bogus addresses? Or, Democrats for using bogus addresses to register and get to the polls bogus votes?

    If the integrity of voting isn't assured, then the losing party ALWAYS has the election stolen from them. How can you defend against such a claim in an environment that encourages abuse, by all sides?

    Want to fix this problem? Ensure the integrity of the vote. But then, "Motor Voter" Democrats want ANYTHING but that. Don't they?

    Sorry, the pot is calling the kettle black here.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on Jun 4, '07

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