Quote from roy fokker
moral of the story: you are not an adult and you have only as much free will as your parent allows you?
no - not what i mean at all.
wanna put me on a diet because i eat bacon for breakfast? or rehab because i drink socially? i'd have to put myself on a diet or in rehab then. ;-)
what if you as a parent think you are acting in my best interests - but really are not; but you
refuse to see it. what then? well, i hope i'm not that obtuse . . . . i don't mean to let these parents off the hook . . .
at what point - really - do kids stop being "kids" and become "adults" ? never. :-) my husband told our daughter just the other night that no matter how old she gets, she will always be his little girl and he will always love and want to protect her . . ...
not trying to be belligerent steph - just sharing a youn'un's point of view. i appreciate that.
and yes, i'm getting to your pm
ps: the substantial interference with another person's liberty without consent or legally authority
, is kidnapping. you do it because you love me, hate me or simply want money is immaterial. motive doesn't always mitigate crime (self defence perhaps).
i read your pm prior to this . . . . of course i knew you would answer this way. :d
i'm thinking of situations i've experienced . . . . i was visiting my mom one summer during college and her neighbor, a woman about my age, was getting beaten by her s.o. on the front porch. i called her parents and her mom cried but said they had done everything they could for her, taken her away from him, gotten her counseling, etc., and now they had to just stand back because their daughter didn't want help. i called the cops instead. she went back to him.
another time i was visiting my sister (gotta stop visiting family
) and a big fat biker dude with tattoos all over was hitting a tiny woman who had a baby on her hip - i yelled at him to stop and he came at me. i locked the door and called the cops, who arrested him for "disturbing the peace" since the woman wouldn't press charges. he was back home the next morning. (this was before the law that cops could arrest a person w/o the abused person pressing charges).
i could go on - i've seen so much abuse of women - guess i'm looking at it from a parent's pov. if your kid is hurting, you do what you can to help. even adult children. but they also, of course, have the right not to take your help.
i still think this is a case of parents panicking and the whole thing should be handled with mediation and not jail.
thanks for the advice though . . . ..