BushII and the National Governors winter meeting

  1. States are experiencing the worst fiscal problems since WWII and are calling out for federal help. Most states are forbidden to run deficits. {unlike the federal government which asked last week to raise the national debt ceiling to [I cannot recall the exact vast figure but it is about] 7 or 8 trillion dollars; not a typo, I know it is trillion.} So, due to shortfalls of $30 billion this year and an anticipated $82 billion for next fiscal year, states have to cut programs for schools, health care, and prisons and some states are raising taxes. So the states, who opened their winter meeting of governors yesterday are appealing to the BushII administration for help, especially in the area of homeland security.

    Tomorrow there is a scheduled policy discussion between the governors and President Bush. And guess what? The governors have been informed they may ask 2 questions which must be pre-submitted in writing: 2 questions, total, as a group of all the states of the union, with all the problems and concerns, they may ask BushII only 2 questions. Some "discussion", yes? NO!

    Bush also closed today's formal dinner to the press; and my governor, Gary Locke, reports there have even been limits set on the toast to be given by the Kentucky governor. Some "freedom of the press and freedom of speech", yes? NO!
    Finally, in the best tradition of our brave new orwellian double-speak, White House spokesman, Jimmy Orr is quoted "As a former governor, the president looks forward to hosting the governors and interacting with them."
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  2. 17 Comments

  3. by   pickledpepperRN
    Who is NOT afraid?
    I am as frightened of losing our freedoms as of terrorist activities.
  4. by   Ted
    Yep. . . read this particular news in our local newspapers too.

    I have absolutely no respect for the GWB and his political regime. How can we trust someone who won't even allow open dialogue with our nation's governers.

    On so many levels. . . he's such an jerk. A dangerous jerk at that. On SO many levels.
  5. by   rncountry
    I believe the Infectious Disease doc I work with hit the nail on the head the other day when he called the Bush Administration, the Bush Monarchy. I dispise these people. He'll keep it up though as long as people do not mention it. To be frank I'm more concerned with this type of activity than I am the terrorists. How does one say we are fighting against those that would take our freedoms away, when those saying it are the ones who have taken more than any terrorist has? Freaking hypocrite! This will come back to haunt us as much as McCarthyism did.
  6. by   VivaLasViejas
    I happen to live in Oregon, which is now being called the Mississippi of the Northwest for a number of reasons, e.g., we have the highest hunger rate in the nation, some of the highest unemployment, the shortest school year, etc. We also have elderly people and mental patients who just lost their Medicaid coverage and can no longer get medications or live in their foster care homes.

    That's why it galls me that the federal government has $$$$ to throw away on a stupid, ill-conceived vendetta that almost no one but Bush (who never served in Vietnam, and thus apparently missed out on the lessons learned from it) really wants. Go figure.
  7. by   Q.
    Tomorrow there is a scheduled policy discussion between the governors and President Bush. And guess what? The governors have been informed they may ask 2 questions which must be pre-submitted in writing: 2 questions, total, as a group of all the states of the union, with all the problems and concerns, they may ask BushII only 2 questions. Some "discussion", yes? NO!
    Call me dumb, but when a bunch of colleaques and I put on a seminar related to problems and issues, we also operated in this format. Why? It allowed all members the chance to ask questions, rather than just a few dominating the entire seminar - in addition, it forced the members to really think about their questions and prioritize their issues/concerns.

    Worked for us.
  8. by   maureeno
    hmmm...sorry I wasn't clear about the Two Questions..
    it does not mean per governor...it means two questions, two,2,II..
    only two for the entire group
  9. by   Q.
    I'm sorry Maureeno, I'm not finding that fact. I perused this site from the National Governor's Meeting website which details the itinerary of the 4 day meeting which address state budgets and domestic concerns. Am I missing something?
  10. by   maureeno
    and it included a formal White House dinner last night and a policy discussion with the president today. The governors were told they would be restricted to 2 questions, as a group, to be submitted beforehand in writing.
    Maybe we'll hear today how it went.....
  11. by   Q.
    I know, you told me that. But where did you hear that?
  12. by   maureeno
    it was an associated press story in yesterday's seattle times
  13. by   Q.
    I must be bleary-eyed from homework.
    I searched The Seattle Times and all I found was an article that stated this:

    WASHINGTON-Struggling states will have to solve their fiscal difficulties without massive federal assistance, a Republican senator warned the nation's governors yesterday, highlighting sharp political disagreements over Washington's responsibilities to states facing huge budget shortfalls.

    The governors spent much of the day trying to resolve their own conflicts on the subject of federal aid before pressing their case with President Bush during a White House meeting scheduled for this morning.
    www.archives.seattletimes.nwsource.com

    Does anyone have a better link? Thanks.
  14. by   maureeno
    good grief, I'm really freaked now. I just looked on the Seattle Times website and they have posted a different story for yesterday than is in the paper I have right here next to me. The Seattle Times Sunday, February 23,2003; Page A6:
    Headline "Bush to let governors ask him 2 questions at meeting"
    I keep hearing stories of self- censorship: it took several days for CBS to list on its website the story it aired on UN inspectors complaining about US intellgience, and now this. I will follow up with the paper. [Just as others did with CBS] Guess it is time to start keeping hard copies of the paper and taping news casts!
    YIKES!!!

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