Bush Teleconference With Soldiers Staged

  1. washington - it was billed as a conversation with u.s. troops, but the questions president bush asked on a teleconference call thursday were choreographed to match his goals for the war in iraq and saturday's vote on a new iraqi constitution.

    "this is an important time," allison barber, deputy assistant defense secretary, said, coaching the soldiers before bush arrived. "the president is looking forward to having just a conversation with you."

    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051013/...r_wh/bush_iraq

    seems initially the white house denied it was staged unaware that the conversation of the set up was taped.

    history repeating.....................
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  2. 51 Comments

  3. by   fergus51
    Bizarre. Staged news reports, staged "town hall" type meetings, now staged conversations with soldiers.... Honestly though, I can't imagine them doing this type of thing in any other way.
    Last edit by fergus51 on Oct 13, '05
  4. by   ZASHAGALKA
    I saw the outtakes.

    It wasn't staged - but it was coached some.

    If you were on National TV for the first time, wouldn't you want some kind of stucture?

    Nobody is saying the soldier's comments weren't their own.

    Personally, I saw this 'event' and I don't think much of events like this. Clinton was the master at 1 person's opinion being "representative", regardless if it actually is or not.

    Sheehan is another example.

    I personally wouldn't have done a conference like this. But easing the nerves of un-camera saavy soldiers is a far cry from fraud.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  5. by   mwbeah
    Quote from fergus51
    Bizarre. Staged news reports, staged "town hall" type meetings, now staged conversations with soldiers.... Honestly though, I can't imagine them doing this type of thing in any other way.
    These officers were given a "line of march" but I don't believe they were told what to answer with (I do believe they answered on their own). What makes that different than any other prime time news cast? (Oh, I know the anchors are told what to say.................) If you reread the report, the soldiers were given an temporal order to reply but were not told what to say in response to the questions.

    Mike
  6. by   grannynurse FNP student
    Quote from mwbeah
    These officers were given a "line of march" but I don't believe they were told what to answer with (I do believe they answered on their own). What makes that different than any other prime time news cast? (Oh, I know the anchors are told what to say.................) If you reread the report, the soldiers were given an temporal order to reply but were not told what to say in response to the questions.

    Mike
    Mike the problem was that it was tooted as an unrehearsed uplink. And they were clearly being coached. And knowing the military, they would allow anyone who had an issue with Bush to take part.

    Grnnynurse
  7. by   mwbeah
    Quote from grannynurse fnp student
    mike the problem was that it was tooted as an unrehearsed uplink. and they were clearly being coached. and knowing the military, they would allow anyone who had an issue with bush to take part.

    grnnynurse
    again, i am in awe that you were able to witness this "coaching" of captains in the united states army. i can't believe that, how can they be leading our young men and women into combat if they can't even make it through an interview without being coached! give me their names! i am going to the general:angryfire

    mike (once again in awe)
  8. by   SharonH, RN
    This is really not a surprise at all. My hubby was in the military and he assured me a long time ago that all these conferences and appearances with soldiers were staged or "packed with gung-ho Bushies" as he put it. He told me that they would have never have allowed anyone who wasn't pro-Bush to take part so of course it was staged, that is how they always do it.
  9. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from grannynurse FNP student
    Mike the problem was that it was tooted as an unrehearsed uplink. And they were clearly being coached. And knowing the military, they would allow anyone who had an issue with Bush to take part.

    Grnnynurse
    I don't know about the slap at the military there, but I would agree that OF COURSE THEY WOULDN'T LET SOMEONE THAT HAD AN ISSUE TAKE PART.

    It wouldn't be any different if he were talking to University students, factory workers, or a group of 'democrats'.

    Duh.

    Very few things the President does are ever completely spontaneous. (Maybe asking Condi permission to go pee, but certainly not something on this level).

    And that has nothing to do w/ G.W. - that's endemic to all Presidents.

    And that's why I don't particularly like this format - it's not very useful.

    But to say it's staged, blah blah blah, first overemphasizes the importance of 'canned' opinions (like canned 'laughtracks'), and 2nd is just looking for 'ah ha!' moments. The problem with searching for every 'ah ha!' moment is that it minimizes the reaction to you when you actually have something worth discussing.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  10. by   Mkue
    Another run-of-the-mill AP article :chuckle
  11. by   URO-RN
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    But to say it's staged, blah blah blah, first overemphasizes the importance of 'canned' opinions (like canned 'laughtracks'), and 2nd is just looking for 'ah ha!' moments. The problem with searching for every 'ah ha!' moment is that it minimizes the reaction to you when you actually have something worth discussing.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.

    :hatparty: :hatparty: :hatparty:
  12. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I think the President is doing what he has to, to keep morale going. That it was televised is not a big giant surprise. That the soldiers were coached as to how to behave/interview should come as no shock to anyone here. Why this is such a big to-do, is way beyond me.

    And I did wear the uniform of the US Military, for 10 years. So no surprises here.
  13. by   Mkue
    I think the BIG news could have been that the Iraqi's will be voting on their constitution in December. Which could be a very historical day for them and the world.
  14. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    I don't know about the slap at the military there, but I would agree that OF COURSE THEY WOULDN'T LET SOMEONE THAT HAD AN ISSUE TAKE PART.

    It wouldn't be any different if he were talking to University students, factory workers, or a group of 'democrats'.

    Duh.

    Very few things the President does are ever completely spontaneous. (Maybe asking Condi permission to go pee, but certainly not something on this level).

    And that has nothing to do w/ G.W. - that's endemic to all Presidents.

    And that's why I don't particularly like this format - it's not very useful.

    But to say it's staged, blah blah blah, first overemphasizes the importance of 'canned' opinions (like canned 'laughtracks'), and 2nd is just looking for 'ah ha!' moments. The problem with searching for every 'ah ha!' moment is that it minimizes the reaction to you when you actually have something worth discussing.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Of course you are right.

    Much ado about nothing -

    And kinda disrespectful to the military to say they were "coached" in the sense that they are programmed robots with no original thoughts of their own.

    Like they are dummies or something.

    Our high school kids go to a local tv station to take part in a competition with other high schools in the area in answering historical questions - kinda like Jeopardy. They are "coached" in a sense, if you really want to use that word, about how tv works and how to act, etc. They are not told the answers . . . .

    steph

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