British Authorities disrupt major terrorist plot

  1. http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060810/...terror_plot_29

    Terrorists plotting to simultaneously explode several planes in midair from London to America using 'liquid' bomb materials.

    British Authorities knew about plot and was investigating it for sometime before events necessitated arresting plotters.

    21 plotters arrested, more sought.

    "A senior U.S. counterterrorism official said authorities believe dozens of people — possibly as many as 50 — were involved in the plot, which "had a footprint to al-Qaida back to it." The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation."

    From British Authority: "Attempt would have been mass murder on an unimaginable scale."

    New rules in effect for major airlines. No liquids, electronics and severly limited carry ons to be allowed in the future.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on Aug 10, '06
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  3. by   indigo girl
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060810/...terror_plot_29

    Terrorists plotting to simultaneously explode several planes in midair from London to America using 'liquid' bomb materials.

    British Authorities knew about plot and was investigating it for sometime before events necessitated arresting plotters.

    21 plotters arrested, more sought.

    "A senior U.S. counterterrorism official said authorities believe dozens of people-possibly as many as 50-were involved in the plot, which "had a footprint to al-Qaida back to it." The official spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the situation."

    From British Authority: "Attempt would have been mass murder on an unimaginable scale."

    New rules in effect for major airlines. No liquids, electronics and severly limited carry ons to be allowed in the future.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Well, that explains it then. I was driving home from work this AM, very tired from my 90 minute commute. My exit off of I 95 is the same one as the airport. The signs were all lit up saying heightened security, police checks, no liquids or gels to be carried on board, (I thought that really strange), restricted carry-on luggage. Good day not to be at the airport.
  4. by   rn/writer
    I will be very interested to hear more about how this plot was uncovered and monitored. So far, the word is that this investigation involved many agencies in a number of countries and has been going on for months.

    If this is the kind of destruction that the NSA phone and financial monitoring uncovers, I'm all for it. Yes, we need to protect the rights of individuals, but the rest of your rights evaporate if you end up anihilated on a plane. Or even seriously confined and constricted in your travel plans and extremely limited in what you can bring along or carry on.

    As always, there has to be balance. Those who don't want any infringement on any rights ever don't understand that the right to live and have some confidence in personal safety is another right worth fighting for.

    I wish the "whistleblowers" NY Times could get a grip on the big picture. Do they think it's merely coincidence that there hasn't been a major attack on US soil in nearly five years. Do they think it's merely coincidence that quite a few serious plots have been discovered BEFORE they were carried out largely as a result of the efforts of the NSA and other security agencies.

    These are the same folks who, no doubt, would be raising fists and accusations if something got missed and an attack took place. They'd be railing against those who "failed to connect the dots," even though the NY Times has gone out of its way to have at those dots with all the Wite-Out they can dredge up.

    Back during WWII, there was a saying, "Loose lips sink ships." I'd like to amend that for the current age to "Careless articles can turn us to particles."

    Bravo to the men and women whose diligent efforts exposed and thwarted this latest attempt to slaughter and terrorize the US and the rest of the world.

    You know, people can be weapons of mass destruction, too.
  5. by   Spidey's mom
    I must be very lucky, flying into LAX on Monday night. I missed all the scary stuff.

    Customs was still a hassle but one well worth it.

    Good posts Tim and Miranda.

    Indigo - I have to say I am very much in favor of limiting carry ons . . . the stuff people bring on the plane is amazing and it leads to longer times waiting to get off the darn plane.

    steph
  6. by   VickyRN
    Quote from rn/writer
    I will be very interested to hear more about how this plot was uncovered and monitored. So far, the word is that this investigation involved many agencies in a number of countries and has been going on for months.

    If this is the kind of destruction that the NSA phone and financial monitoring uncovers, I'm all for it. Yes, we need to protect the rights of individuals, but the rest of your rights evaporate if you end up anihilated on a plane. Or even seriously confined and constricted in your travel plans and extremely limited in what you can bring along or carry on.

    As always, there has to be balance. Those who don't want any infringement on any rights ever don't understand that the right to live and have some confidence in personal safety is another right worth fighting for.

    I wish the "whistleblowers" NY Times could get a grip on the big picture. Do they think it's merely coincidence that there hasn't been a major attack on US soil in nearly five years. Do they think it's merely coincidence that quite a few serious plots have been discovered BEFORE they were carried out largely as a result of the efforts of the NSA and other security agencies.

    These are the same folks who, no doubt, would be raising fists and accusations if something got missed and an attack took place. They'd be railing against those who "failed to connect the dots," even though the NY Times has gone out of its way to have at those dots with all the Wite-Out they can dredge up.

    Back during WWII, there was a saying, "Loose lips sink ships." I'd like to amend that for the current age to "Careless articles can turn us to particles."

    Bravo to the men and women whose diligent efforts exposed and thwarted this latest attempt to slaughter and terrorize the US and the rest of the world.

    You know, people can be weapons of mass destruction, too.
    :yeahthat: Excellent post, Miranda.
  7. by   Roy Fokker
    As always, there has to be balance. Those who don't want any infringement on any rights ever don't understand that the right to live and have some confidence in personal safety is another right worth fighting for.
    That's a huge , gigantic, presumption.

    I wish the "whistleblowers" NY Times could get a grip on the big picture. Do they think it's merely coincidence that there hasn't been a major attack on US soil in nearly five years. Do they think it's merely coincidence that quite a few serious plots have been discovered BEFORE they were carried out largely as a result of the efforts of the NSA and other security agencies.

    These are the same folks who, no doubt, would be raising fists and accusations if something got missed and an attack took place. They'd be railing against those who "failed to connect the dots," even though the NY Times has gone out of its way to have at those dots with all the Wite-Out they can dredge up.
    Sorry. I beg to differ. Terrorism can be fought without the need to violate civil rights.


    Maybe in 10 years time, I'll be lucky to travel with clothes on.
    Or, maybe not. Heck, I'm already a "suspect" and am treated as such because I 'suit' the profile.


    Not gonna dwell much on this topic.

    cheers,
  8. by   pickledpepperRN
    It was Britain and Pakistan:
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4780815.stm
    http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/latest...111117/f86bc7b
    http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060810/...in_terror_plot
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/frontpage/...842270,00.html

    In 1995, a similar plot:
    http://www.nytimes.com/2006/08/11/wo...pe&oref=slogin

    I flew today from Oklahoma to Los Angeles. Luckily CBS news was on so all our toothpaste, lotion, Head and Shoulders was checked through..
    A woman had to throw away her solid gel deordorant.
    The plane was late and people missed connections because we had to have all carry ons and our bodies patted down.
    One man was asked, "Do you have something there?"
    He answered, "Yes, a hernia. Do you want to look at it?"
  9. by   NRSKarenRN
  10. by   pickledpepperRN
    Britain has named 19 of the 24 people arrested yesterday on suspicion of plotting to blow up passenger jets flying to the United States and has frozen their assets. Police said the plan was to take liquid explosives disguised as drinks on up to 10 planes with detonators hidden in electronic devices.

    Text version:
    http://www.democracynow.org/print.pl.../08/11/1343252

    Watch or listen:
    http://www.democracynow.org/article..../08/11/1343252
  11. by   Logan
    Hi,

    None of the alleged terrorists had made a bomb. None had bought a plane ticket. Many did not even have passports, which given the efficiency of the UK Passport Agency would mean they couldn't be a plane bomber for quite some time.

    In the absence of bombs and airline tickets, and in many cases passports, it could be pretty difficult to convince a jury beyond reasonable doubt that individuals intended to go through with suicide bombings, whatever rash stuff they may have bragged in internet chat rooms.

    What is more, many of those arrested had been under surveillance for over a year - like thousands of other British Muslims. And not just Muslims. Like me. Nothing from that surveillance had indicated the need for early arrests.
    Read more: http://www.craigmurray.co.uk/archive..._terror_p.html

    Somebody jump the gun?

    Thanks,
    Matthew
  12. by   rn/writer
    In news accounts on a number of different networks, there was mention of a message originating in Pakistan instructing the recipients to go ahead with their task. I believe this was one reason why British officials chose to act when they did.

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