Blurb about US-Iraq duplicity in 80s

  1. Just saw a cheerleader in another thread poopooing the French and Germans for selling material/technology to the Iraqis. Has to be responded to so...here ya go!


    UNDERSTANDING THE U.S.-IRAQ CRISIS:
    The History of U.S.-Iraq Relations
    By Phyllis Bennis

    A pamphlet of the Institute for Policy Studies, January 2003

    Did Iraq ever use weapons of mass destruction? Did Iraq use them during the Gulf War? Did Iraq ever use WMDs against the U.S. or U.S. allies?

    The Iraqi military used chemical weapons against Kurdish civilians during the Anfal campaign in the 1980s. It also used them against Iranian troops during the Iran-Iraq war. All those uses of chemical weapons, whether against civilians or against enemy troops, violated the international chemical weapons treaty.

    One former Iraqi officer, General al-Shamari, told Newsweek that he was in charge of firing chemical weapons from howitzers against Iranian troops, and that U.S. satellite information provided the targeting information. A former CIA official confirmed to Newsweek that the U.S. provided military intelligence to Iraq, including on chemical warfare. General al-Shamari now lives safely in the U.S., running a restaurant outside of Washington DC.

    The Iraqi regime clearly knew that using such illegal weapons against targets of no interest to the West (such as Iranian troops or Kurdish civilians) would not result in serious consequences. They were right; the U.S. continued licensing the shipment of biological seed stock and other WMD material to Baghdad even after Iraq's use of illegal chemical weapons became news.

    But during the Gulf War Iraq never used chemical or biological weapons. They knew that any use against American troops, Saudis or Israelis would be met with devastating consequences. Israel threatened to use its nuclear weapons if attacked by Iraqi WMDs, although it was still operating under U.S.-imposed constraints. The deterrence worked- the Iraqi regime never used WMDs against any U.S. or allied target. The exposure of many American troops to chemical weapons toxins, possibly part of the cause of Gulf War syndrome, resulted from the U.S. military's detonation of chemical dumps.
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  3. by   Mkue
    Originally posted by epg_pei
    Just saw a cheerleader in another thread poopooing the French and Germans for selling material/technology to the Iraqis. Has to be responded to so...here ya go!


    Cheerleader here

    Kind of ironic how the French and Germans both opposed "serious consequences" or force on Iraq during UN discussions while supplying Iraq with material/technology warfare to use against the US and coalition forces.

    My point, why would they support SH and his Regime and the evil it stands for? And why would anyone approve of it?
  4. by   pickledpepperRN
    Originally posted by mkue
    Cheerleader here

    Kind of ironic how the French and Germans both opposed "serious consequences" or force on Iraq during UN discussions while supplying Iraq with material/technology warfare to use against the US and coalition forces.

    My point, why would they support SH and his Regime and the evil it stands for? And why would anyone approve of it?
    Why did the USA?
    Why did no one stop us?
    I think because Homeni (SP?) was so bad. Maybe they didn't believe it. Hard to know who to believe.
    For instance I heard on the radio that Vice President Chaney is going to Iraq to stop his daughter who wants to be a human shield. I am not certain but think it is not true.

    SH is obviously a liar. He said Iraq had now biological or chemical weapons before the war started, then implies that there was a "line in the sand" that would unleash the same if crossed. (That according to a radio report I have no link for. Sorry.) Heard on the same station, yet I believe it.

    WHO CAN BE BELIEVED?
    Who Lied to Whom?
    Seymour Hersh
    The New Yorker
    http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/?030331fa_fact1
    Posted 3/25/2003 9:58:40 PM
    March 31, 2003 Edition

    http://www.veteransforcommonsense.or...cle.asp?id=582
    Pentagon: U.S. Finds Nothing at Iraq Chemical Plant
    Associated Press
    New York Times
    http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/inte...cal-Plant.html
    Posted 3/25/2003 10:42:42 Pm March 25, 2003, 7:05pm ET
    UN Inspector: USA lied about Iraq's weapons

    Aftenposten (Norway)
    http://www.aftenposten.no/english/wo...ticleID=511811
    Posted 3/21/2003 6:40:00 PM March 19, 2003
  5. by   pickledpepperRN
    http://www.gulfwarvets.com/news11.htm

    Joyce Riley RN, spokesperson for the American Gulf War Veterans Association has for seven years been shining the light of accountability on the Department of Defense
    for having armed our "enemy" with weapons of mass destruction, exposing our military to these weapons and then denying not only their culpability but the very
    existence of the mystery diseases. She often quotes Senator Donald Riegle (D-MI) who stated in Senate Report 103-900, "Our troops are not just sick, they are dying."

    Riley, a former Captain in the United States Air Force Reserve and Flight Nurse states: "If it wasn't bad enough to watch our troops become ill from our own
    weapons... the Department of Defense labeled our sick men and women as "mental cases." These proud men and women have been abandoned, are now sick
    and must fight the battle alone. These needless illnesses and deaths now lie at the feet of the Pentagon and Veterans' Administration Hospitals."

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