Bashing Intelligent Men?

  1. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/main...aaffairs13.xml

    BRILLIANT MEN ALWAYS BETRAY THEIR WIVES . . . .

    Einstein's affairs should surprise no one, says Desmond Morris. It is all in the genius's genes
    So Albert Einstein did not, after all, spend all his waking hours chalking up complex symbols on a blackboard. According to letters newly released this week, he devoted quite a bit of it to chasing the ladies. And with considerable success. . . . . . .

    During a presidential visit to Britain, John F. Kennedy once shocked an elderly Harold Macmillan when he complained to him that if he didn't have sex with a woman every day he suffered from severe headaches. . . . .

    That genius of the cinema, Charlie Chaplin, was an even more active sex addict, capable, he said, of ''six bouts a night''. Whenever he was bored he would set about seducing a girl. He had four wives (three of them teenagers) and an endless procession of mistresses, some of them alarmingly young. His greatest thrill was the prospect of deflowering a virgin. . . . .
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    MAYBE the key here is not "intelligence" but lack of moral values and responsibility.


    All you intelligent men are being generalized and packed into the same group as those "satyr's" . . . .




    steph (who just found this interesting . . )
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  2. 11 Comments

  3. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I married a man I am quite sure is pretty brilliant. I adore that about him and would never bash him (nor anyone smart). I find intelligence and caring so much more important than just physical attributes. And I love a man with the self-esteem to not let any woman (or other man) put him down and get away with it. And my man is honest to a fault. Gotta love that man.

    ok I digressed. Sorry....
  4. by   SmilingBluEyes
    I agree Steph. Lack of moral values; MAJOR TURNOFF.
  5. by   Roy Fokker
    Ok.. maybe read that one a little to "fast" :imbar
  6. by   Roy Fokker
    In my opinion, these generalizations are such baloney.

    For instance :

    a) The world doesn't revolve around the West and the marriage/divorce ratio of that population

    b) "Marriage" means many different things to many different folks around the world. There are many here who would recoil with horror with the suggestion of "polygamy"; while many around the world consider it the norm. I won't bother introducing "polyandry".

    c) The 'wildly' popular notion that "great people are without blame/shame". In other words that "great people are more than human". Why? Just because they may have some achievements in life, does that make them any more human than us... that human law, courtesy and contract be "ignored" because they are "great people" ?

    d) Said article places a long elaborate thought on why "men are the way they are because of evolution" and vice-versa for women. I object because while their interpretation seems to be the "popular one" on "male roles in society" (the only one I can really object on, right?) versus "famale responsibility at home" .... nothing compared to that and our present society bodes imminent doom.

    I mean, I could go on and on and on...

    The very basic "premise" that patriarchal human society "grew out of evolutionary needs" is just completely absurd. Evolution is based on natural selection - natural selection doesn't give a rats doo-doo if you are "male and dominant" or "female and dominant". It only cares about "how many of you will reproduce and give forth how many of the off spring will include variants".

    Period.

    But to me, it is just an uninformed journalist/presenter who hasn't thought his/her story through....

    IMHO, ofcourse.


    cheers,
    Last edit by Roy Fokker on Mar 14, '07
  7. by   Spidey's mom
    Glad I wasn't the only one to think this was "baloney".

    steph
  8. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from Roy Fokker
    Ok.. maybe read that one a little to "fast" :imbar



    steph
  9. by   ZASHAGALKA
    There might be something to the prototypical 'nature' argument that men have a vested interest in 'spreading' their seed and women a vested interest in keeping the 'breadwinner' connected to the rearing of a child.

    Just as their might be more than a grain of truth in the idea that women look for the best 'breadwinners' to marry, but the best physical traits to imbue to their children and those concepts might - or might not - be tied to a single male.

    However true any of those concepts might be, we are endowed with more than just our 'instinctual' characteristics. The thing many of us consider to be a 'soul' is the ability to rise ABOVE our genetic programming in the interest of our own version of 'morality'. That is, what we are by nature is not necessarily what we become as a result of nurture.

    That's not to say we DO, as humans, successfully rise above our genetic programming, just that we have the CAPABILITY to do so. Therein lies the struggle within each and every one of us. If doing the right thing were easy, it wouldn't be rewarding.

    So, while I might not disagree with the premise of such a concept as this article, I completely disagree with the conclusions. Intelligence absent morality does NOT make someone an ideal person, and it especially doesn't make someone an ideal 'catch'.

    That some of our great inventors, thinkers, and leaders had moral flaws had nothing to do with their intelligence. It had to do with their lack of morals. Those qualities are as different as the nature and nurture seeds from which they independently derive.

    (In truth, I don't believe this nature/nurture concept is so black and white, but this definition serves its purposes for this rebuttal.)

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on Mar 14, '07
  10. by   CHATSDALE
    i have known men who believe that a woman's primary role is to
    1]provide sexual pleasure
    2]clean and cook
    3]bear children
    4]look the other way when he seeks pleasure elsewhere
    5]rear his children to believe that this is the norm

    they have unhappy wives, screwed up children, and the ladies he pursues are left with nothing
  11. by   CHATSDALE
    oh and steph...hubby was real smart to choose a good wife and dashing to assure he was chosen
  12. by   CRNI-ICU20
    I dunno...
    I have met and dated a few frogs in the pond who were not only dumb...but dumb cheaters as well!
    I think it has more to do with which head they are using!!
    And....
    There's alot of dumb women cheaters too...
    cheating isn't gender exclusive....and there are plenty of women who use men just as much as men use women...
    I think it is just character flaw....
    some people have character and actually respect themselves and others around them enough to be truthful and honest in their relationships....
    some are too flawed to understand truth on any level....
    besides...
    Think of what would happen to trash television shows if people didn't cheat on their spouses?? Ha!
  13. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from CRNI-ICU20
    I dunno...
    I have met and dated a few frogs in the pond who were not only dumb...but dumb cheaters as well!
    I think it has more to do with which head they are using!!
    And....
    There's alot of dumb women cheaters too...
    cheating isn't gender exclusive....and there are plenty of women who use men just as much as men use women...
    I think it is just character flaw....
    some people have character and actually respect themselves and others around them enough to be truthful and honest in their relationships....
    some are too flawed to understand truth on any level....
    besides...
    Think of what would happen to trash television shows if people didn't cheat on their spouses?? Ha!
    Exactly . . .the article makes the point that by virtue of being intelligent, men can't be faithful either. Like it is some higher art form or something. And we have to forgive them because they are so intelligent. :icon_roll

    When it is just a lack of respect for the women they marry.

    And I've seen folks from all walks of life and all levels of intelligence (or lack thereof) do this.

    steph

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