Atheists: No God, no reason, just whining

  1. This is soooo true!
    Atheists: No God, no reason, just whining

    I can't stand atheists -- but it's not because they don't believe in God. It's because they're crashing bores.

    My problem with atheists is their tiresome -- and way old -- insistence that they are being oppressed and their fixation with the fine points of Christianity. What -- did their Sunday school teachers flog their behinds with a Bible when they were kids?

    First off, there's atheist victimology: Boohoo, everybody hates us 'cuz we don't believe in God. Although a recent Pew Forum survey on religion found that 16% of Americans describe themselves as religiously unaffiliated, only 1.6% call themselves atheists, with another 2.4% weighing in as agnostics (a group despised as wishy-washy by atheists). You or I might attribute the low numbers to atheists' failure to win converts to their unbelief, but atheists say the problem is persecution so relentless that it drives tens of millions of God-deniers into a closet of feigned faith, like gays before Stonewall.

    Maybe atheists wouldn't be so unpopular if they stopped beating the drum until the hide splits on their second-favorite topic: How stupid people are who believe in God. This is a favorite Dawkins theme. In a recent interview with Trina Hoaks, the atheist blogger for the Examiner.com website, Dawkins described religious believers as follows: "They feel uneducated, which they are; often rather stupid, which they are; inferior, which they are; and paranoid about pointy-headed intellectuals from the East Coast looking down on them, which, with some justification, they do." Thanks, Richard!

    The problem with atheists -- and what makes them such excruciating snoozes -- is that few of them are interested in making serious metaphysical or epistemological arguments against God's existence, or in taking on the serious arguments that theologians have made attempting to reconcile, say, God's omniscience with free will or God's goodness with human suffering. Atheists seem to assume that the whole idea of God is a ridiculous absurdity, the "flying spaghetti monster" (me: hilarious, some here use that, I guess their talking points come from the same place) of atheists' typically lame jokes.
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  3. by   Spidey's mom
    I just finished "What's So Great About Christianity" by Dinesh D'Souza and he does a very good job of taking on atheists, including Mr. Dawkins.

    "Those who believe in God are at present being subjected to a barrage of atheist propoganda, drected particularly at Christianity. "What's So Great About Christianity" is a much-needed response to this offensive. It is wide-ranging, specific, well-researched, and dependably accurate. It will be of immense value to all those who wish to defend and uphold the Christian case." Paul Johnson, author of Modern Times.

    I also just finished my "Christianity and World Religion" class and religious faith across the spectrums is connected - plus the majority of people on Earth believe in a god of some kind.

    Mr. Dawkins is calling the majority of people on Earth bad names.

    steph
    Last edit by Spidey's mom on Jun 7, '09
  4. by   FireStarterRN
    I'll have to pick up that book Spidey, it sounds like a winner!
  5. by   canoehead
    Wow, nice to see posters put down another religion.

    My only problem with Christianity is I'm tired of hearing how wonderful it is. Good for them, let's move on.
  6. by   flightnurse2b
    i'm not an athiest by any means... but i think that post was rather harsh and judgemental. i'm sure there would be an uproar on this board if someone were to post a likewise comment about a division of christianity.

    everyone's beliefs deserve respect.
  7. by   Tweety
    Then again the whine "it's so hard to be a Christian these days.........", including the article Steph quoted is whiney and boring too.

    The op is such an obnoxious, ignorant artricle I can't bring myself to take it seriously enough to comment.
    Last edit by Tweety on Jun 7, '09
  8. by   FireStarterRN
    Quote from Tweety
    Then again the whine "it's so hard to be a Christian these days.........", including the article Steph quoted is whiney and boring too.

    The op is such an obnoxious, ignorant artricle I can't bring myself to take it seriously enough to comment.
    I find comments like this ironic. Atheists are certainly able to dish out the disparaging remarks, denigrating believers as ignorant fools, but apparently can't graciously take it in kind.
  9. by   Tweety
    Quote from FireStarterRN
    I find comments like this ironic. Atheists are certainly able to dish out the disparaging remarks, denigrating believers as ignorant fools, but apparently can't graciously take it in kind.
    Let me clarify that when I said "op" I mean original post....not original poster and didn't mean to insult you personally, since you didn't write it.

    In the many years of being here, you certainly can't accuse me of not being able to take what I dish out. If I've ever dished out any crap like the writer of the article you've posted did, I challenge you to find it and I'll humbly apologize because I know over the years I've posted crap, that includes some anti-Christian rants...but surely not such a stereotypical or insulting rant. I do allow people the right to their opinion and if that's your opinion that you agree with the aritcle, then that's o.k. It says a lot about you and how you think, and you're entitled.

    My opinion is and remains the same, that the "Christians are under a barrage of athesist probaganda" type of thinking smacks of whining victimhood as the article accuses atheists....and it's all boring. It speaks of a closed mind and unwillingness to engage in reasonable dialog.
    Last edit by Tweety on Jun 7, '09
  10. by   herring_RN
    No sense getting upset about something I can't do anything about.
    So I don't listen to Christopher Hitchins or Bill O'Reilly.
  11. by   Spidey's mom
    Having just finished reading atheist's "manifestos" I have to say that they are quite "harsh" in their judgment of people who believe in a god.

    Christopher Hitchens especially - but also Dawkins.

    I won't link you to their stuff . . . " It speaks of a closed mind and unwillingness to engage in reasonable dialog."

    Tweety


    steph
  12. by   Tweety
    Quote from Spidey's mom
    Having just finished reading atheist's "manifestos" I have to say that they are quite "harsh" in their judgment of people who believe in a god.

    Christopher Hitchens especially - but also Dawkins.

    I won't link you to their stuff . . . " It speaks of a closed mind and unwillingness to engage in reasonable dialog."

    Tweety


    steph

    Steph that is probably the point I was trying to make the most, both sides aren't innocent in how they react. Both are closed-minded, both whine about victimhood, both don't engage in reasonable dialogue with one another. I'm glad that you're seeing that.

    I am reading An Introduction to Humanism and am not finding it harsh at all. It questions and challenges, but it quite accepting. I'm sure a Christian would find the manifesto harsh, just as an athesist whom is told he is going to burn in hell finds that a bit harsh.
  13. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from Tweety
    Steph that is probably the point I was trying to make the most, both sides aren't innocent in how they react. Both are closed-minded, both whine about victimhood, both don't engage in reasonable dialogue with one another. I'm glad that you're seeing that.

    I am reading An Introduction to Humanism and am not finding it harsh at all. It questions and challenges, but it quite accepting. I'm sure a Christian would find the manifesto harsh, just as an athesist whom is told he is going to burn in hell finds that a bit harsh.
    Yep . .. .I have to say Hinduism held quite an appeal for me . . that and Bahaii . ..Those are the two religions I did presentations on.

    steph
    Last edit by Spidey's mom on Jun 7, '09
  14. by   Tweety
    Quote from Spidey's mom
    Yep . .. .I have to say Hinduism help quite an appeal for me . . that and Bahaii . ..Those are the two religions I did presentations on.

    steph

    Buddhism appeals to me as well....the Southeast Asians are Buddhists and you don't here a lot of drama out of them. LOL

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