Another Great One Gone: former Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher

  1. Britain's first and only female prime minister Baroness Thatcher has died at the age of 87 after suffering a stroke.

    Lady Thatcher's children Mark and Carol said their mother, who suffered bouts of ill health in recent years, died peacefully on Monday morning.

    Downing Street, which joined Buckingham Palace in flying its flags at half mast, said the politician would be given a full ceremonial funeral with honours at St Paul's Cathedral.

    Sky sources understand she died at the Ritz in central London.
    Say "hi" to Mr. Reagan for us. RIP dear, dear lady.
  2. 11 Comments

  3. by   TopazLover
    RIP. Those were times of great change, some good, some not so good. As PM, she brought a new view to the western world where few women had seen the glass ceiling let alone break through it.
  4. by   tntrn
    She also wanted to change England from a What Can You Do For Me kind of mentality to How Do I Do This For Myself one. Sadly, that goal has gone by the wayside and England is more and more an entitlement kind of place.
  5. by   BCgradnurse
    I didn't always agree with her politics, but I admire her for being a strong woman who had the courage of her convictions. Rest in Peace.
  6. by   herring_RN
    ... A chemistry major at Oxford, Thatcher was never one of those conservatives who saw science as the enemy of progress.
    And in the last three years of her premiership, she became one of the first world leaders to call for action of global warming.
    Below are excerpts from four of her most stirring speeches on the subject. ...
    In 1990. I agree with some and disagree with some. She admirably said it as she believed.
  7. by   StNeotser
    She was actually a very divisive character in the UK. It also shouldn't be forgotten that she was kicked out of power by her own party after making policy that made her unelectable. I remember the Poll tax riots. In fact, I still owe some Poll Tax.

    Nevertheless, credit where credit is due, she did achieve something unimaginable in 1975 by becoming Tory leader and becoming Prime Minister in 1979. I do thank her for letting me think it was completely natural for a woman to be a Premier when I was growing up.
  8. by   tewdles
    She really was my political hero in the 70's and early 80's.
    It is rarely a good idea to place a mere person on any pedestal, as we all discover.
  9. by   herring_RN
  10. by   StNeotser
    OK, I'll bite on that one Herring. Though I don't mind if someone privately thinks that PM Thatchers death is a good thing, I find the public celebrations of her death ghoulish. There was to be some sort of protest today in London and I haven't even looked at any UK newspaper today to see what I might find because it would make me ashamed to be British. These celebrations are not right at all and many celebrating weren't even born when she was ousted from power. I was born in 1972, and the years that followed were somewhat turbulent politically in the UK. We also had frightening inflation and then stagflation.

    To begin, Margaret Thatcher came to power in 1979 with the Winter of Discontent fresh in the UK electorates memory. The Winter of Discontent was a period in the late seventies where in the UK many labour unions had been on strike. There were three day work weeks because there wasn't enough power to power offices and business. My Grandfather who was once suspended from Islington borough council for investigations into communism died in 1978. (he never was a communist, just very left wing and there were many such investigations in the '50's and '60's) However, he could not be buried for three weeks because of a grave diggers strike. Trash piled up in the streets because the trash collection went on strike. People could not get to work reliably because there were many public transport strikes on trains and buses. As a small child all I remember is that we had candles at the ready all the time because there was a power cut at least once a week, usually around dinner time.

    I firmly believe that Margaret Thatcher came to power because the electorate were voting against the government that allowed Britain to become such a mess. The labour unions owned the UK government at that time. The UK was not such a gender equality nation in 1979, they were voting against "anything but this", much like the 2008 election where McCain never stood a chance because Obamas opponent was still George Bush. Mrs Thatcher had to go to a voice coach to lower and articulate her voice so she wouldn't sound so "shrill".

    Margaret Thatcher broke the stranglehold the labour unions had on the country in subsequent years. However, though she had a very right wing agenda, she would never have considered taking apart the National Health Service (publicly funded health care) or social security for seniors.

    Political ideology can be a very dangerous thing. Whether it's corporations or unions that have a government by the short and curlies, extremism is never a good thing. What happened to middle ground?

    What sets her apart for me from American female conservatives like Bachmann or Palin is she had conviction. She did really believe in what she was doing was right for the country. She was not a shill, saying what she thought might make her the most money. She did really believe she was helping people. However, when people say she came from "humble beginnings" as a grocers daughter, I will say this. My father was a grocers son. He went to private schools all the way to university where he got into the London School of Economics. This is because in his small town my grandfather was probably one of the most wealthy men.

    Anyway, all I'm trying to say is though I didn't always agree with her, she was a role model for me. She was a strong woman and helped me to be strong too.

    I know you probably all thought I was very left wing. I merely long for a government that isn't owned by either side of the political spectrum. I long for one that is owned by the people.

    Also, she was an absolutely fantastic orator. Anyone can go to youtube and watch her at Prime Ministers question time.
  11. by   herring_RN
    Thank you StNeotser.
    I don't like celebrating a death either.
    I'm not expert on her time as Prime Minister, but criticizing should not include celebrating death. In my opinion.
  12. by   StNeotser
    It's fine and I know the spirit in which you meant the seems Margaret Thatcher is such a prominent individual even in death. My only hope is that her funeral is not spoiled by ugly behaviour.
  13. by   StNeotser
    In 1990 Thatcher warned that the Euro would end European democracy - YouTube

    And here.............I remember watching this live after Margaret Thatcher had come back from Paris knowing that she was in defeat. She put on an amazing show.