America hates Hillary Clinton

  1. Regular master's of the obvious over in the UK.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...124.xml&page=1
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  2. 19 Comments

  3. by   Spidey's mom
    "But Crossing America reminded us that the most influential voices in the 2008 election - the most open contest since 1928 – are those in flyover country. Once the parties choose their candidates, these are the people - cynical and anxious, unimpressed and disillusioned - who still have to be persuaded."


    I'm glad they took the time for that road trip. And I was pleasantly surprised that "we" weren't characterized as bumpkins.

    I don't "hate" Hillary. I don't agree with her philosophy of life, her politics, etc.

    steph
    Last edit by Spidey's mom on Nov 25, '07
  4. by   HM2VikingRN
    The real message of the article is that whoever wins the nomination from either party needs to be able to govern and lead the whole country. The other part of the article that is significant is that people are looking for leadership not politics.

    (BTW the title, tone and tenor of the post are another example of a hit piece.)
    Last edit by HM2VikingRN on Nov 25, '07
  5. by   currentlytx
    I feel it is a whole package of what that person stands for and what they have to do for the people of the USA and what they have to offer. There is one male candidate that does not and will not salute flag, put his hand over his heart or say pledge of alliegance. He does not recognize the flag as a symbol of our freedom. I have a problem with that personally. That personally tells me alot about how that much respect that person has for our country and what it stands for. Respect for what what we have all gone thru to gain and keep our freedom!
  6. by   mshultz
    They had a nice blog about Wooster, Ohio:
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/foreign...mericaday4.htm

    HM2Viking:
    I am not sure exactly what you mean by a hit piece. Some of the Americans' comments did make me cringe. As for myself, I would have no problem voting for a Conservative Female or a Conservative Black. How about Condoleezza Rice for President?
  7. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from mshultz
    They had a nice blog about Wooster, Ohio:
    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/foreign...mericaday4.htm

    HM2Viking:
    I am not sure exactly what you mean by a hit piece. Some of the Americans' comments did make me cringe. As for myself, I would have no problem voting for a Conservative Female or a Conservative Black. How about Condoleezza Rice for President?
    I'm not sure about the "hit piece" either . . .unless the hit piece was on "middle America" . . there were a couple of comments that I thought were not very well thought out but that happens in whatever group you are in. Liberals and conservatives and . . . .etc.

    I also have NO problem voting for a conservative, regardless of race or sex or anything else.

    steph
  8. by   HM2VikingRN
    I was referring to the tone and tenor of the annotation to the link not the original article from the telegraph.

    There are qualified candidates from both parties. I could not in good conscience vote for a "conservative" candidate regardless of race or gender. Radical conservatism is a failed ideology for a wide variety of reasons outside the boundaries of this thread. It is far more important to elect a candidate that will govern the country as a whole not just for the benefit of the upper 0.5% of the economy.
  9. by   HM2VikingRN
    This graphic represents why I think conservatism is wrong for the future of the country:

    The cost of tax cuts for the highest-income 1 percent of households will exceed the entire 2006 budget of the Department of Homeland Security. It similarly will exceed the entire 2006 budget of the Department of Veterans’ Affairs. And it also will be greater than the combined budgets of the Departments of Housing and Urban Development, Energy, and the Environmental Protection Agency.



    Source: http://www.cbpp.org/2-5-07tax.htm accessed today.

    Taking money from those who really need the help to give it to those who don't need the help is just wrong. It is reverse Robin Hoodism.
    Last edit by HM2VikingRN on Nov 26, '07
  10. by   ElvishDNP
    I might not vote for her but hate is way too strong a word. Incidentally, I feel that way about just about everyone running. That is why I have a t-shirt that reads "Baggins & Gamgee '08".
  11. by   Katnip
    Quote from Arwen_U
    I might not vote for her but hate is way too strong a word. Incidentally, I feel that way about just about everyone running. That is why I have a t-shirt that reads "Baggins & Gamgee '08".
    I'm with you Arwen. And I recognized your name immediately. I feel like such a Geek.
  12. by   elkpark
    Quote from currently TX
    I feel it is a whole package of what that person stands for and what they have to do for the people of the USA and what they have to offer. There is one male candidate that does not and will not salute flag, put his hand over his heart or say pledge of alliegance. He does not recognize the flag as a symbol of our freedom. I have a problem with that personally. That personally tells me alot about how that much respect that person has for our country and what it stands for. Respect for what what we have all gone thru to gain and keep our freedom!
    Of course you're referring to the manufactured flap over Barack Obama, which consists of one candid photo (who knows what happened immediately before or after the second the photo was snapped?) and a smear campaign. Obama has denied the accusations, although I'm sure anyone who would believe any of this foolishness in the first place would not be particularly impressed by what he actually has to say about the subject ...

    http://thinkonthesethings.wordpress....-daggone-fool/

    http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com...a-dirty-trick/
  13. by   cardiacRN2006
    Did you not see the video of that incident? We had a whole thread on it...It wasn't a 'quick photo snap'. He looked bored and pained throughout the entire national anthem.
  14. by   EmmaG
    Wow. That's almost as bad as defacing the flag!

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