A Rape, A Nurse, and the Morning After Pill

  1. Here's a news story out of Florida. A girl c/o rape, gets the morning after pill prescribed, gets taken to jail on an outstanding old warrant, and the *^#@+= nurse there denies her the second dose of her prescription because it violates the nurse's own religious belief. Whew! What a hullabaloo! Personally, I hope this nurse gets some punishment.

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/01/30/jai....ap/index.html
    Last edit by TrudyRN on Jan 31, '07
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  2. 8 Comments

  3. by   Jolie
    The jail nurse states that she declined to administer the drug because she lacked an order to do so, not for religious reasons. I don't think it is fair or reasonable to assume that she withheld the drug on religious grounds unless and until an investigation bears that out.

    I'm sorry for the rape victim's trauma. But it was NOT the nurse who put her in jail. And we all know the consequences of administering medications without an order.
  4. by   GardenDove
    I think you're allowed to opt out of giving the morning after pill because of religious convictions. The facility needs to set up a protocol on what to do in this event in order to protect everyone's rights when this happens.
  5. by   GardenDove
    I know people who are pro-choice think everyone should think the way they do, but that's not the case. People who are pro-life do have a right, under our constitution, to have convictions about this issue, and the courts have upheld the rights of pharmacists and nurses to not violate their convictions. Therefore, facilities need to think ahead and set up protocols.
  6. by   Spidey's mom
    I read this in the paper this morning - I'm more appalled that they put her in jail.

    Some compassion, please?

    As to the nurse, my understanding is she didn't have an order.

    steph
  7. by   Spidey's mom
    hi, stevielynn,

    on cnn, they said there was an order but that the nurse objected due to her religion. they further stated that the 2nd dose had been put into the "prisoner's" belongings, which were then locked up.

    if the nurse didn't have an order and even if she personally didn't want to administer the rx, she ought to have looked into the matter further, as a professional nurse. a simple call to the er, a call to the jail doctor, or the nurse's supervisor could have quickly remedied this problem of no order being present.

    imo, the nurse was inexcusably self-centered and put herself before her helpless patient. now this girl is possibly pregnant, possibly exposed to hiv and god knows what else, mentally traumatized, etc.

    furthermore, just to make it really bad, she says she already paid the fine that got her locked up. why did police not verify this before making the arrest?

    the police could have used some discretion in when to arrest her. this was a 4 year old warrant for a non-violent matter (theft) and would have kept a while longer. so add police slovenliness to the problem. plus, as soon as they discovered this warrant, they quit looking for the rapist. have you ever in all your life? i'm just so appalled and aggravated over this whole case.

    [font=courier new]if i were that girl, i'd sue everyone i could.


    peace.

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    hi trudy - i find the whole thing appalling too . . . thanks for the clarification.


    steph
  8. by   CHATSDALE
    correction
    the nurse stated that she did not express her religious views at any time to the rape victim...the victim had the post24 hour pill in her possession when she was arrested and it was put in secured lockup with her belongings..the nurse did not have access to these

    the victim should not have been put in jail and the sheriff said that the policy had be changed so that if a crime victim who is wanted is not deemed to be a danger to the public they are NOT to be jailed

    the hunt for the rapist was not discontinued when the victim was arrested

    this was a horrid thing to have happen but to throw in a few juicy unfacts is not justified
  9. by   Spidey's mom
    Quote from CHATSDALE
    correction
    the nurse stated that she did not express her religious views at any time to the rape victim...the victim had the post24 hour pill in her possession when she was arrested and it was put in secured lockup with her belongings..the nurse did not have access to these

    the victim should not have been put in jail and the sheriff said that the policy had be changed so that if a crime victim who is wanted is not deemed to be a danger to the public they are NOT to be jailed

    the hunt for the rapist was not discontinued when the victim was arrested

    this was a horrid thing to have happen but to throw in a few juicy unfacts is not justified
    Thanks Dale - another clarification . . . . don't ya just love the news media?


    steph
  10. by   GardenDove
    TrudyRN, who doesn't have Premium status here, requested that I post her PM to me.

    Hi, Garden Dove, just to clarify - I am not really pro-choice. I think AB - be it by scalding with NS, cutting to shreds with a curette, pulling to pieces via vacuum, stabbing in the brain, or whatever other totally grotesque and murderous method, particularly when done repeatedly for the same woman, who just can't seem to find some other means of BC - is an absolutely murderous crime, no matter what the judges who sit on the Supreme Court say.

    Having said that, I do think there's a place for just about everything in this world, including abortion. In this case, the pill would have been a much simpler method to employ. Does it not prevent conception or implantation? Or does it not cause a very early conception to terminate? I don't have nearly the problem with very, very early termination that I do with a later one. I think the suffering of the embryo or fetus is what bothers me. The view that, no matter how early, the conception is a life with a soul or spirit and is therefore holy and should not be murdered, does not really describe my view, however flawed and convoluted my thinking is.

    I don't have much trouble letting the raped get aborted. I do have trouble forcing them to bear the rapist's baby. That is just barbaric. We think the burka is bad? Sheesh. I think I'd probably slaughter somebody who tried to force that on me or mine. Is there a jury anywhere that would convict me? (LOL, it would be just my luck that there would be.) Hope that makes it clearer.

    This thread has been moved to someplace where I cannot post so if you want to post it to the thread, feel free.

    Shalom.

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