The one thing I would like to say is that we can't have it both ways here. You cannot have top of the line, brand new whatever if the American citizen is unwilling to pay the taxes that pay for the planes that cost several million each. On the one hand there is plenty of *****ing and moaning over the taxes one pays, on the other there is plenty of *****ing about crappy schools
, poor roads, poorly paid or equipped military. Again on one hand there is plenty of *****ing about big government, don't need the government as much as the government thinks we do, but let the government miss something or not be Johnny on the spot then you get plenty of *****ing about that too.
The planes may be 30 years old, but do you know how old the commerical plane you are flying on is? Not likely to be much younger. You do also of course realize how much each one costs.
And Suzy I beg to differ with you about Clinton and the military. I am not a big fan of Clinton, though I think he did some good things. I do think it is a misnormer though to blame him for all the problems in the military,which by the way is still the best equipped in the world. My ex was in the military when the downsizing of the military started. That did not start under Clinton, it actually started in the last few years under Reagan. Multiple bases were shut down not only in this country but abroad as well. The military cutbacks continued under Bush SR. with Mr. Cheney taking a lead in what should be cut as well as what bases would be shut down. I know, two of the bases we were at were on the close list. As well as Barbers Point Navel Base in Hawaii, all closed while Bush SR was in office. It is true that the closings and downsizing of the military continued under Clinton, but it did not start with him, and some of the base closings in particular where slatted to be closed, and for some reason could not be changed, when he took office. Do I think that the military should have recieved better raises while Clinton was in office? Yes I do. Or new equipment? Of course. But then we come back to the tax thing. Under Reagan we had the largest deficits we have ever had in this country, it did not help that we had a horrid economy then, 25% unemployment in Michigan by 1982. Remember Clinton won by focusing on the domestic front and the economy. One of the mandates that were given was reducing if not eliminating the budget deficits, and holding taxes down. How does one go about buying new planes or other things if you don't have the money to do so, and deficit spending is no longer acceptable?
I am not attempting to play a blame game of what political party did what stupid thing at what time. I am trying to simply say we don't have the right to ***** about not having enough of this or that, or having poorly paid military if we are also not willing to pay the taxes for it. And that doesn't mean so the government can $500 for a hammer, or to develop a coffee pot that will withstand G forces that would kill a human. It means be prudent and reasonable. Not something either party has always been good at.