"The Pa. plane on 9-11 shot down by th U.S., not wrestled to the ground??"

  1. I have ran across a few conspiracy remarks in my news

    reading, but I didn't know what they were talking about.

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  3. by   nurs4kids
    Prn,
    I really believe you ARE Bobbie from Maine; if not you should look her up...you have a sister out there. I also have an anti-gov't father-in-law that you'd love.

    I only read the first clip on that link, as I was sure the rest of it was anti-American rhetoric and I could really care less what anyone thinks of America. I love it..america rocks!

    However, I will entertain your point. Sooooo, I'll assume (not that I believe, but for the point of this discussion), that the gov't shot down flight 93. After what america suffered from the WTC and Pentagon attacks, are you suggesting the gov't should have sacrificed another thousand or more to
    "save" less than fifty that were destined to die anyway?? This whole argument about the gov't shooting the plane down is mute in my opinion. If they DID shoot it down, then we owe them a high five. The sad thing about this whole argument is that it steals the heroic efforts from those on board the flight and gives it to the gov't. Instead of the passengers being heroes, fighting the hijackers to their death...SAVING the lives of others....this whole scenario just leaves them as victims. Had me or mine been on that flight, I would welcome the gov't shooting it down in an effort to save others. We'd already seen that this was no routine hijacking, these guys meant business. Would it have been better to leave the plane alone and allow the passengers to die as they crashed into the White House and killed another thousand or so??
    Death is death, it's never pretty, but it looks better if 50 die rather than 2000 + 50.
  4. by   NurseDennie
    You know.....? You've got a plane full of heros. Okay, Maybe one of them was in the bathroom, but I don't know if that's true.

    But the evidence shows that the HEROS on the plane attacked the bad guys and the plane was out of control and crashed. Evidence:

    1) Todd Beamer was talking to a Sprint or MCI something like that operator when he put the phone down to be part of the attack. He told her that they were going to "try something." Why would she lie?

    2) Todd Beamer's wife was interviewed on television last week. I'm working 9:30 - 6:30 or something now, so I get to see the morning news shows. She said that the survivors were allowed to hear the tape of the final moments of the plane. She said that it sounded like the were within moments of regaining control of the plane.

    3) SOME people like to see conspiracies everywhere. Duhhhh If it was necessary to shoot down that plane, I think that the government would have admitted it. They certainly wouldn't let the families think their deceased loved ones were heros and then let them listen to a tape of the plane being shot down.

    4) Three people can keep a secret - if two of them are dead.

    Love

    Dennie
  5. by   Mkue
    Interesting, I just saw a presentation on Hoaxes from 9/11.. alot of strange stories and photos floated around after 9/11.

    I would have to stick with my gut feeling on the tragic Pa. Crash
    And the evidence as Nurse Dennie stated.

    They died Heros.
  6. by   DIPLOMATICRN4HIRE
    Why would anyone in thier right mind or heart Condsider this article to be true...
    I pray that the souls on that plane are in the best possible place in GODS hands because they did a huge sacrafice, they sacraficed thierselves to save others from harmsway.
    Why are you even contemplating the thoughts that they are any less than HEROS? Are you so shallow that you cant understand what they did? Where were you on SEPT 11?
    What every person on that plane did was unselfish, and deserves nothing less but praise and prayers because of thier acts of kindness and what most would have done in the situation they were put in at the time. I would certainly hope I would be as brave as all of them on the plane. They knew what was ahead of them and they acted ... THEY ARE OF THE BRAVEST that day along with the other 2 THOUSAND other innocent people that gave thier lives by just being Normal that day ie: going to work , to provide for thier familys, or Doing thier jobs ie: Police and Fireman who put thier lives in harmsway everyday they clock in...
    I wish there was an iggy on here so I didnt have to see such trival BS as what you have posted , I do know its a choice to respond to these matters or not but If you have a heart you may wish to use it , because you Never know who are on theses sites, there may very well be a family member of anyone who lost someone on that flight , or even Someone who lost someone so dear to them on that day.
    Just my 2 cents worth
    Zoe
  7. by   Cathy Wilson, RN
    Why was there difficulty in locating Flight 93, if the government KNEW where it was? And, why didn't any of the poor souls on that plane that were talking on cell phones mention fighter jets?
  8. by   prn nurse
    Easy on the name-calling.......................
    I just ran across this surfing for 9-11 information and
    posted it to share.
    I didn't WRITE it OR endorse it.
    I read everything..............................and, if you're ever in Dallas , they've got a whole street of conspiracy shops, movies, photo's and tours.
  9. by   StuPer
    Hi All,
    Some people want to find muck `n` intrigue in everything..... I have just read on the BBC News site that the US only had 14 planes to defend the whole country at the time of the attack, of which only 4 were on the eastern seaboard, 2 of which went straight to NY.... so that leaves 2 planes... and apparantly none of them were armed... they even considered crashing into any perspective threats in order to prevent further loss of life. Given all these FACTS.... it would be frankly amazing if they could spare a plane to secretly shoot down Flight 93. I was and still am in respectful amazement at the actions of the passengers on that flight, who undoubtfully saved many, many lives.
    I should add as an Ex Military bloke that often the percieved abilities of military organisations are far in advance of reality, its just no organisation is going to deny 'superman' status, it makes `em look good and scares the enemy.
    regards StuPer
  10. by   RNinICU
    Another outrageous post from an outrageous person. I have not heard these ridiculous stories before, but I am not surprised to hear them, as almost every historical event is subject to some kind of lunatic fringe conspiracy theory. I live about 25 miles from Shanksville. My daughter was on her way to work that morning and saw the plane go down. NONE of the witnesses saw any other planes in the area, or any smoke coming from the planes. Are there people who hate our society so much that they have to try to take away our heroes? What's really sad about all of this is that it is probably some of our own citizens who started these rumors. I guess being subjected to this kind of rubbis is one of the prices we must pay for our freedom of speech.
  11. by   stressedlpn
    Too angry to type what I really want to say, however I will say this, those floks on that plane are heroes plain and simple, when I think of what they did, giving their lives to save others, this is the plane that most agree was heading to the capital, and had it hit our gov. would have been disabled,. The sad part of it, they died to protect the very freedoms that ungrateful americans love to use.
  12. by   kmchugh
    Originally posted by prn nurse
    Easy on the name-calling.......................
    I just ran across this surfing for 9-11 information and
    posted it to share.
    I didn't WRITE it OR endorse it.
    I read everything..............................and, if you're ever in Dallas , they've got a whole street of conspiracy shops, movies, photo's and tours.
    By the same token, you posted it, perpetuating that nonsense. There are those who see conspiracies in everything. Generally, its called paranoia, and it isn't healthy.

    Kevin McHugh
  13. by   kmchugh
    OK, I have more to say on this subject, after all. But generally, it is really about prn in general. From the tone of your posts, besides being a racist, you are also anti-government, and are convinced that the US government is one big conspiracy aimed at keeping them in power, and you (the little people) down. In fact, you seem to buy into nearly every paranoid conspiracy fantasy that comes down the pike.

    Get a clue. In the first place, given the political climate, keeping a big conspiracy quiet is impossible. Someone along the way, either out of a desire to set things right or a desire to become famous, will blow the whistle to the press. And if you think the press is in collusion with the government, then it's time to pad your rooms and get on thorazine. You are beyond help.

    As for the military being involved in this "conspiracy" you are a fool. The military is comprised mostly of proud professionals, trying to do the dirty, usually tedious job of standing watch. They don't have time for conspiracies, though we all used to laugh out loud at fools like you.

    prn, grab you ears and pull down sharply. If you do this correctly, you will hear a popping sound, and suddenly the world will be a much brighter, much sweeter smelling place. The world ain't out to get you. Your government is not plotting against you. They just don't have time for your insignificant self.

    Kevin McHugh
  14. by   RNinICU
    Originally posted by kmchugh
    OK, I have more to say on this subject, after all. But generally, it is really about prn in general. From the tone of your posts, besides being a racist, you are also anti-government, and are convinced that the US government is one big conspiracy aimed at keeping them in power, and you (the little people) down. In fact, you seem to buy into nearly every paranoid conspiracy fantasy that comes down the pike.

    Get a clue. In the first place, given the political climate, keeping a big conspiracy quiet is impossible. Someone along the way, either out of a desire to set things right or a desire to become famous, will blow the whistle to the press. And if you think the press is in collusion with the government, then it's time to pad your rooms and get on thorazine. You are beyond help.

    As for the military being involved in this "conspiracy" you are a fool. The military is comprised mostly of proud professionals, trying to do the dirty, usually tedious job of standing watch. They don't have time for conspiracies, though we all used to laugh out loud at fools like you.

    prn, grab you ears and pull down sharply. If you do this correctly, you will hear a popping sound, and suddenly the world will be a much brighter, much sweeter smelling place. The world ain't out to get you. Your government is not plotting against you. They just don't have time for your insignificant self.

    Kevin McHugh
    Couldn't have said it better myself. And prn, I want to know if you really believe all of this crap, or you just enjoy being offensive.

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