"I guess Kerry wasn't content blowing 2004, now he wants to blow 2006, too."

  1. http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/story?id=2619383&page=1

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLuMWiQ6r2o

    http://www.eyewitnessnewstv.com/Glob...16595&nav=F2DO

    "You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't, you get stuck in Iraq." - John Kerry.

    My 2004 vote is now fully vindicated.

    This won't go away until he apologizes. He can say he meant something else till kingdom come. HE SAID WHAT HE SAID. That isn't some GOP smear campaign. He said it. The words speak for themselves. Even if it was a 'botched joke', he needs to apologize for what he said.

    Personally, I think Kerry is a 'botched joke'. Thank God he's not our President.

    "A Democratic congressman told ABC News Tuesday, "I guess Kerry wasn't content blowing 2004, now he wants to blow 2006, too." "

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
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  3. by   ZASHAGALKA
    http://www.legion.org/?section=pub_r...release&id=405

    American Legion: "While The American Legion shares the senator's appreciation for education, the troops in Iraq represent the most sophisticated, technologically superior military that the world has ever seen," Morin said. "I think there is a thing or two that they could teach most college professors and campus elitists about the way the world works."

    "The senator's false and outrageous attack was over-the-top and he should apologize now."

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    John McCain: "The suggestion that only the least educated Americans would agree to serve in the military and fight in Iraq is an insult to every soldier serving in combat today."


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    John Kerry: "I apologize to no one"


    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  4. by   DutchgirlRN
    Kerry blew his political career when he degraded every one of our brave citizens serving in the armed forces. If I were in the service that would feel like a slap in the face to me. I think it was awful, just awful. He needs to sincerely apoligize to our servicemen and women. Even so I think he's ruined his career, about that I couldn't care less.
  5. by   Sheri257
    This is a non-factor. Afterall ... it's John Kerry. Who listens to him anyway.

    Now if it was Bill Clinton ... completely different story.

    Republicans may want this to blow the election but, IMO, I seriously doubt it's going to change much of anything. Chances are the people who are offended by this are going to vote Republican no matter what anyway.

    The real problem is the Republicans may be down right now but, as usual, the Democrats haven't given voters many candidates that they can get excited about and vote for.

    And, it doesn't help when the Democrats keep supporting stupid issues like illegals ...

    That, to me, is what's going to hurt Democrats more than anything else ... not what a loser like Kerry says. He's irrelevant.

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Nov 1, '06
  6. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from lizz
    Republicans may want this to blow the election but, IMO, I seriously doubt it's going to change much of anything. Chances are the people who are offended by this are going to vote Republican no matter what anyway.
    Oh, while I certainly agree, I think it WILL mean lots for the election cycle. We've heard for weeks now how demoralized the Republican Base is and that they aren't going to vote.

    The mainstream media has been telling them for weeks why they SHOULDN'T get out and vote. 60 minutes went so far as to put some evangelical on to tell the Christian right how they should 'sit this one out'.

    I'm offended. As a former military enlisted, I used my military service and the education benefits gained to go to school and get an RN license and a Bach degree. I don't think I was 'stuck' in the military because I was stupid. And, I resent that implication. It's too typical an opinion of those that want to control our gov't.

    This is from the SAME guy that called our troops 'terrorists and rapists' last year. So, no, I DON'T give him the benefit of the doubt. It's completely consistent with his world view. And he was talking to students. He was saying to THEM: if YOU aren't smart, YOU'LL get stuck in Iraq. His new found spin doesn't hold water.

    It might be an issue that plays just for the offended 'base', but don't discount that as a factor in the election. The whole Democrat 'storm' being predicted was predicated on that base staying home.

    As such, it doesn't matter if the mainstream media avoids this story, as they will certainly try to do. NYT hid the story on page 18, 15 paras into an article. But the base will not only hear the insult, but the unapologetic attack on those dirty Republicans.

    The only way to defuse this issue prior to election day is an apology. And even then, it might not be enough.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on Nov 1, '06
  7. by   Sheri257
    Quote from ZASHAGALKA
    It might be an issue that plays just for the offended 'base', but don't discount that as a factor in the election. The whole Democrat 'storm' being predicted was predicated on that base staying home.
    I never bought into the conservative base staying home either. Elections always come down to people in the middle and Democrats haven't those given voters much to inspire them.

    I personally will be surprized if Demos win any of these races ... and I felt that way before Kerry, Michael J Fox or any of these other issues.

    It's not enough to tell people to vote against a party. You've also got to give people a candidate to vote for. In most cases, the Democrats haven't done that and that's why many of these races are too close to call.

    :typing
    Last edit by Sheri257 on Nov 1, '06
  8. by   Tweety
    Timothy, if you think him putting his foot in his mouth is really going to sway things next week, I predict you're mistaken. He did apologize saying he botched a joke about Mr. Bush, saying something like "if you're uneducated like Mr. Bush is, you go to war in Iraq". Very lame, and foot is definately in mouth.

    This election is all about Iraq. October was the deadliest month this year. Iraq is the issue. Mr. Kerry's remarks are not going to be remembered next week, blow it out proporation though the republicans who are grasping at straws will do, but forgotten they will be. But the deaths in Iraq and this war will not be.

    I will be vindicated next week, this I know.
    Last edit by Tweety on Nov 1, '06
  9. by   Tweety
    Quote from lizz
    It's not enough to tell people to vote against a party. You've also got to give people a candidate to vote for. In most cases, the Democrats haven't done that and that's why many of these races are too close to call.

    :typing
    I could turn it around and say the same thing as you, because there is not one, not one, republican that is going to get my vote next week, and I'm an independent and have voted for a republican in the past.

    It's hard to be objective when you're passionate about your core beliefs but there are some good democratic candidates out there.

    The "too close to call" only exemplies how 50/50 split we are as a nation, and in some states. It's an amazing time. The governor's race here in Florida is too close to call, but the dems definately have a candidate wortth voting for. I haven't been this pro-candidate in a long long time, but it's still too close to call, not because we don't have worthy candidates, but because we're one of those 50/50 split down the middle states.
  10. by   NRSKarenRN
    Living in a heavy Republican county which usually has candidate signs on every lawn / major road, have found the Incumbent Republican candidate signs few and far between despite 20 yr congressman having election office located in my office complex.
  11. by   Sheri257
    Quote from Tweety
    I could turn it around and say the same thing as you, because there is not one, not one, republican that is going to get my vote next week, and I'm an independent and have voted for a republican in the past.

    It's hard to be objective when you're passionate about your core beliefs but there are some good democratic candidates out there.

    The "too close to call" only exemplies how 50/50 split we are as a nation, and in some states. It's an amazing time. The governor's race here in Florida is too close to call, but the dems definately have a candidate wortth voting for. I haven't been this pro-candidate in a long long time, but it's still too close to call, not because we don't have worthy candidates, but because we're one of those 50/50 split down the middle states.
    I guess I've seen too many Democrats lose elections, even in liberal California.

    Schwarzenegger's going to win (again) because of the stupid illegal issue. Democrats have been blowing gubernatorial races for decades on that one. Great ... let's support a group that can't even vote.

    I hope I'm wrong about the Demos because I do want them to win but ... I'll believe it when it actually happens.

    :typing
  12. by   perfectbluebuildings
    There's an exciting 50/50 Senate race in my state too. I'm excited.

    And I don't think what Kerry said reflects badly on anyone but himself. I don't see it having much to do with elections at all, after all he's not up for election and I haven't heard anyone out there Democrat or Republican supporting his extremely ridiculous/foot-in-mouth statements.
  13. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Quote from Rayrae
    There's an exciting 50/50 Senate race in my state too. I'm excited.

    And I don't think what Kerry said reflects badly on anyone but himself. I don't see it having much to do with elections at all, after all he's not up for election and I haven't heard anyone out there Democrat or Republican supporting his extremely ridiculous/foot-in-mouth statements.
    It reminds the fence sitters what the leaders of those they vote for think.

    It's not about Kerry, it's about the party. Kerry provided a convenient reminder for independents and conservatives about WHY they keep voting Dems out.

    Prediction: Republicans will keep both houses of Congress. I thought it was iffy: 50/50 until Kerry opened his mouth. I think it's the difference.

    I listened to Neal Boortz this morning. He's been consistently saying that the Republicans deserve to lose. This morning: "6 days before the election and I finally have a reason to vote against the Dems: given the choice of big spenders that support our military, and big spenders that put them down, there is now a real choice. I guess there needs to be some other way to bring the Republicans to task."

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
  14. by   ZASHAGALKA
    Harold Ford, Jr. Sen Candidate (D)-TN: "John Kerry needs to apologize."

    Jon Tester, Sen Candidate (D)-MT: "Senator Kerry's remarks were poorly worded and just plain stupid. He owes our troops and their families an apology."

    The candidates in close races understand that, without an apology, this issue will dog them till election day. Kerry's own indignant stance yesterday, combined with the mainstream media's attempt to downplay the issue, ensures that it will brew before it boils over. If you think this is a 24 hr news cycle, you are mistaken. The candidates know this full well.

    Even if it was a botched joke, he said what he said. Karl Rove didn't say it, Kerry did. He needs to apologize. The candidates weighing in by necessity ensures its not going away.

    Don Imus: "Shut up. Go ride a bike, go windsailing or anything as long as you keep your mouth shut." - That's bad advice. He needs to apologize. That's the only way the issue subsides.

    Hillary Clinton: "Kerry remarks were inappropriate." - But don't kid yourself: Hillary is gleeful as she can add Kerry to Warner as the growing list of potential '08 candidates now out of the race.

    ~faith,
    Timothy.
    Last edit by ZASHAGALKA on Nov 1, '06

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