your own personal beliefs vs pt care - page 2

Hi everyone :) I work as a medical assistant in a family practice clinic. A few weeks ago we had a training on walk in pregnancy tests, which leads me to this post. If a pt comes in for a... Read More

  1. Visit  silentRN profile page
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    The only thing in nursing that I am really skeptical of is pushing vaccinations on patients while they are admitted in the hospital. Over the years I have become more skeptical of them.
  2. Visit  JBudd profile page
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    I fail to see that leaving your personal beliefs at the door is ethical. Ethics is all about who you are, your inner committment to doing what is right. My personal beliefs include the responsibility to perform safely, competently, attention to detail, a good work ethic, professionalism, using my education and resources, staying up to date on new things. So no, I am not about to leave my personal beliefs at the door.

    Drinking alcohol is legal. Doesn't mean getting drunk is good for you. Abortion is legal, doesn't mean that a life wasn't ended.

    There is not a woman in this country who is not aware that abortion is available. So, jumping all over a coworker who cannot in good conscience recommend a procedure to a patient is failing to acknowledge that she has a moral and ethical stand on abortion. Does the patient want information? It is available. There are others in the office willing to provide it. There are also phone books, the internet, and many other places to go for information. If the nurse says, I cannot in good conscience do this for you, why villify her? She isn't working at an abortion clinic, she is in a familypractice. And one day standing in front of God, yes He will judge what we have done.
  3. Visit  patty89 profile page
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    I don't believe I "jumped all over" this coworker. I mentioned she is a great nurse but was wondering how you would handle a situation like this.
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  4. Visit  JBudd profile page
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    No, you didn't, but a great many posters seem to have (I was trying to speak in generalities). How would I handle it?
    I have said to people, "that isn't something I can help you with", and asked someone else to help. We support each other in many ways, not just on this issue; we all work as a team. If you are uncomfortable with a procedure (male placing a female foley), we trade tasks all the time.

    It just seemed that noone posting here seemed to have any sympathy for a person being asked to do something personally unacceptable.
  5. Visit  patty89 profile page
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    Great answer
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  7. Visit  MN-Nurse profile page
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    Quote from patty89
    If she has a pt with a positive pregnancy test who is wanting an abortion she does not give out any info as she feels it is against her beliefs.
    What the nurse is doing is hideous. What if her beliefs were that the patient should have an abortion and she refused to refer the patient for prenatal care?

    Just as bad.
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  8. Visit  merlee profile page
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    This is a debate that will never end. Yes, sometimes we do have to leave some of our personal beliefs at the door. As an earlier poster stated a JW should not be withholding info about blood transfusions. I am Jewish but if you want to eat bacon and I am your cook, I will cook it for you.


    And if we are talking about information, then that is all we are talking about, not performing the abortion. People are entitled to all the info that they request.


    Ethics is a two-way street.
  9. Visit  Creamsoda profile page
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    Quote from gonzo1
    I try to leave my personal beliefs at home when I go to work. My job is to take care of the patient and educate the patient. They have the right to complete information and the right to make up their own mind after looking at all options.
    Exactly. And its not illegal. They just need to know where to go. Keep your beliefs out of it, direct them to where they can get help.
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  10. Visit  BostonTerrierLoverRN profile page
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    I personally wouldn't even recommend where they can get their nails clipped without reffering them to ask the MD, and documenting their concerns.

    Been Nursewhooped too much for the few opinions I do have, Lol
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  11. Visit  shoegalRN profile page
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    This year, I have lost two family members to acts of violence within a month's timeframe.

    While at work, I had to take care of a convicted murderer, who was also charged with armed robbery and assault with a deadly weapon. The patient was 18.

    It took all I had inside of me to give that patient the best care I possibly could as his nurse and not think about him killing someone, because it affected me personally.

    Although hard, I try to leave my personal beliefs at home.
    Last edit by shoegalRN on Mar 29, '12 : Reason: grammer
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  12. Visit  RNsRWe profile page
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    Quote from JBudd
    I have said to people, "that isn't something I can help you with", and asked someone else to help. We support each other in many ways, not just on this issue; we all work as a team. If you are uncomfortable with a procedure (male placing a female foley), we trade tasks all the time.

    It just seemed that noone posting here seemed to have any sympathy for a person being asked to do something personally unacceptable.
    I have been asked more times than I can possibly count to give 2-4mg Dilaudid IV q4h to patients who (in my personal opinion) would be far better served with a trip to rehab than yet another buzz from unnecessary narcotics.

    Somehow I can't see me saying "that isn't something I can help you with" and ask one of the other nurses to do it for me (again and again). I certainly don't expect anyone to have sympathy for the nurse that refuses to do it....nor should they.


    No, I firmly believe if you are unable to give the information as ordered, the med as ordered, and provide the patient with what is required of you in a family practice setting, you shouldn't be doing that job.
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  13. Visit  33762FL profile page
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    As a libertarian, I haven't come across any issues with patients where I feel it would be okay to push my personal beliefs on them. I don't agree with drug seekers who want to get Dilaudid pumped into their veins until they're zonked but if I've got an order and their BP and respiratory rate is WNL then who am I to tell them to "just say no to drugs?" I've had pregnant patients on my med-surg floor that got meds like non-pregnant patients because they told the doctor that they're having an elective abortion anyway. The doctor made the decision to order the meds, it's not my business. We all have a right to make our own decisions in life, I wouldn't want anybody pushing their ideas on me so I pay others that same courtesy by not doing it to them.

    The ONE thing I've seen a lot of that I have a personal problem with is people who abuse the system and suck it dry with no intention to pay their bill or even buy themselves some health insurance to pay the bill. In the original post, I'd be more upset about giving a free pregnancy test when that person could go spend $10 at CVS than about the person saying she wants to have an abortion. The tax rate in the US for people with a household income between $150-200K per year is way too high, partly because of this ridiculousness we have to subsidize (and don't get me started on the past decade's unfunded wars)
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