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  1. Oct 5, '12 by
    I knew this was gonna happen.. I don't "believe" but you bet I do take offense when others that do, make "God" the center of all good things..

    OP, thank you for acknowledging what we do daily
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  2. Oct 5, '12 by
    Quote from SummitAP
    Why? Was that somehow offensive? Can you not tolerate humor? Are people only allowed to parrot your views?

    Humor and sarcasm are the only way for diverse views to converse on controversial topics without it becoming a debate. Anything else is (at least) one view staying silent.
    I was simply asking a question about what I perceived as a snarky comment, nothing more. Nowhere have I posted my views, so I'm not sure what you mean by your comment about "parroting your views".

    As to me tolerating humor--you should see my life
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  3. Oct 5, '12 by
    I had a patient in the ICU who left a mark on me. A woman in her 50's with Breast CA with mets and kidney failure on HD. I was assigned to her every shift. One night she went into flash pulmonary edema and she held my hand and said "Gineen, please don't let me die" And I didn't. About a year later I googled her when she popped into my head, and unfortunatley found her obituary. At the end was a heartfelt thank you to the staff at my hospital.

    I am very glad your sister beat the odds. And I am going to thank you for thanking the medical staff. We don't do it for the thanks, but it certainly feels good to be appreciated.

    I am agnostic. I am also now a hospice nurse. Many hospice patients believe in God. I go with what they say, of course, whatever brings comfort to them. In the same breath some people give thanks to God when someone lives, they also say it is God's will when it is time to die. Whatever gets them through such hard times, I encourage although it may not be my own personal beliefs.

    Sometimes there just needs to be something to comfort us in desperate times of need.
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  4. Oct 5, '12 by
    Quote from Sun0408
    I knew this was gonna happen.. I don't "believe" but you bet I do take offense when others that do, make "God" the center of all good things..
    Yeah, I had hesitated at first to even post about this, knowing all too well the intolerance that exists, but I really wanted to have a conversation about this with other nurses. It's been a huge weight on my mind since April. I didn't choose the "Spirituality and Nursing" section b/c non-religious people probably don't frequent that board, and I wanted all views to weigh in. The point is, I believe that even the most uber-religious folk can at least give a verbal nod to medical professionals. I'm sure everyone would agree that polite, kind words like "please" and "thank you" don't cost a thing, only takes a second, and incredibly well-appreciated.
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  5. Oct 5, '12 by
    Quote from kakamegamama

    Was that necessary?
    Yes. It absolutely was. Your comment was your view, and it pretty much negated everything I have worked so hard to be able to do for people. So yes, dealing with humor with what I found to be a horribly offensive comment without jumping down your throat was 100% necessary.
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  6. Oct 5, '12 by
    Quote from MomRN0913
    I had a patient in the ICU who left a mark on me. A woman in her 50's with Breast CA with mets and kidney failure on HD. I was assigned to her every shift. One night she went into flash pulmonary edema and she held my hand and said "Gineen, please don't let me die" And I didn't. About a year later I googled her when she popped into my head, and unfortunatley found her obituary. At the end was a heartfelt thank you to the staff at my hospital.

    I am very glad your sister beat the odds. And I am going to thank you for thanking the medical staff. We don't do it for the thanks, but it certainly feels good to be appreciated.

    I am agnostic. I am also now a hospice nurse. Many hospice patients believe in God. I go with what they say, of course, whatever brings comfort to them. In the same breath some people give thanks to God when someone lives, they also say it is God's will when it is time to die. Whatever gets them through such hard times, I encourage although it may not be my own personal beliefs.

    Sometimes there just needs to be something to comfort us in desperate times of need.
    Like you I don't believe in God. I am Buddhist, however, I have "prayed" with patients. Nothing says I can't say my meditation chants while they pray. It's not about asking a higher power for anything when I'm doing it, but taking a moment to center myself, relax and try to search for gaps in care, that one little thing extra I can do.
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    Oct 5, '12 by
    Quote from CloudySue
    Yeah, I had hesitated at first to even post about this, knowing all too well the intolerance that exists, but I really wanted to have a conversation about this with other nurses. It's been a huge weight on my mind since April. I didn't choose the "Spirituality and Nursing" section b/c non-religious people probably don't frequent that board, and I wanted all views to weigh in. The point is, I believe that even the most uber-religious folk can at least give a verbal nod to medical professionals. I'm sure everyone would agree that polite, kind words like "please" and "thank you" don't cost a thing, only takes a second, and incredibly well-appreciated.
    I think you're doing a great job keeping a fair, even tone with a subject that can easily turn into a brushfire.

    I do believe that in general even the most devoutly religious people acknowledge the unique skills and contributions of their doctors and nurses. Most of us don't work for the props - I know I don't but then again I don't know what it would be like to never get them at all. Over the years the appreciative words seem to spread out and cover even those that are actually dismissive of what we do (that is very rare imo) most people are wrapped up in their own world when in the midst of a crisis.

    It's been my experience that my employers lately have been the least appreciative of our going the extra mile to do a great job. That does bother me. I won't go so far as to say they are a tool of Satan . . . .
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  8. Oct 5, '12 by
    Quote from itsnowornever
    Yes. It absolutely was. Your comment was your view, and it pretty much negated everything I have worked so hard to be able to do for people. So yes, dealing with humor with what I found to be a horribly offensive comment without jumping down your throat was 100% necessary.
    Wow.....all I asked was if your comment was necessary. How did that "pretty much negate everything I have worked so hard to be able to do for people." How was it offensive? I simply asked a question about what I perceived to be a harsh comment toward another colleague. Nowhere have I said or implied anything against anything you have worked so hard to do for people. In fact, I applaud you and others who do that very thing. The committment of bedside nurses to keep people healthy is phenomenal and reflects hard work and care.
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  9. Oct 5, '12 by
    Quote from kakamegamama

    Wow.....all I asked was if your comment was necessary. How did that "pretty much negate everything I have worked so hard to be able to do for people." How was it offensive? I simply asked a question about what I perceived to be a harsh comment toward another colleague. Nowhere have I said or implied anything against anything you have worked so hard to do for people. In fact, I applaud you and others who do that very thing. The committment of bedside nurses to keep people healthy is phenomenal and reflects hard work and care.
    I automatically believed you were the person I quoted since your reply seemed rather defensive. You aren't. I'm sorry. But yes, my post was absolutely necessary for all the reasons I stated. God deserves all the glory? Well, then I'm not needed, neither is the doctor, or anyone else. It is HIGHLY offensive. I don't do this for praise, but no one should ever remove any HUMAN involved in care and hand over all praise to their imaginary friend. If that's the case, free up the bed for someone else and go pray.
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  10. Oct 5, '12 by
    I understand what you mean, but it really doesn't bother me and I don't look for anyone to give me praise. In a world where people are so entitled and selfish I'm just grateful for the "thank you's"
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