Near Death Experiences, an explanation

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    http://www.salon.com/2012/04/21/near_death_explained/

    I know there have been previous near death experience threads. When I read this article I had a strange response to it and am not sure what it was .

    I have read quite a bit about NDE and have never been uncomfortable about them until today when I read this article. Perhaps because it was so specific:

    Although the details differ, NDEs are characterized by a number of core features. Perhaps the most vivid is the OBE: the sense of having left one’s body and of watching events going on around one’s body or, occasionally, at some distant physical location. During OBEs, near-death experiencers (NDErs) are often astonished to discover that they have retained consciousness, perception, lucid thinking, memory, emotions, and their sense of personal identity. If anything, these processes are heightened: Thinking is vivid; hearing is sharp; and vision can extend to 360 degrees. NDErs claim that without physical bodies, they are able to penetrate through walls and doors and project themselves wherever they want. They frequently report the ability to read people’s thoughts.

    I kept going back to when my DH died. Did he have these things happen? If so, were the things he saw and heard a part of a decision not to fight any more? I know it is not a new question. I was surprised by it as I keep thinking I am done with the grief but every once in a while something like this catches me off guard.

    I guess I am looking for confirmation that there was nothing else that could have happened except for him to die.
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    Fascinating. As a hospice nurse and a Christian I do believe that our soul is separate from our body.

    I love reading this kind of research.

    Thanks!
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    Quote from aknottedyarn
    I kept going back to when my DH died. Did he have these things happen? If so, were the things he saw and heard a part of a decision not to fight any more? I know it is not a new question. I was surprised by it as I keep thinking I am done with the grief but every once in a while something like this catches me off guard.

    I guess I am looking for confirmation that there was nothing else that could have happened except for him to die.
    Grieving is a cyclical process, isn't it AKY? Don't we need to feel and re-feel over and over again until we find peace and acceptance? It seems that something will trigger those feelings of loss and we need to feel grief again. Each successive time the feelings tend to be less painful and/or shorter in duration before we "stabilize" again.

    I would like to be able to give you comfort and understanding, however I'm sure you realize, AKY, your quest for understanding and comfort begins and ends with you. You are where you need to be right now, at this point in Your Journey.

    I don't consider myself to be a Religious Person. However, having experienced an NDE, I know that something extraordinarily (compared to life) occurs when we pass over. And, I believe that the decision we make is lovingly accepted on the Other Side, as we are lovingly accepted.

    The very best to you, AKY. And, thanks for sharing this interesting article.

    Dave
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    Dave, Thanks. Yeah, grief catches you off guard. I know my DH is in a better place and grief is not my identity. His aunt has told me a few times that she thinks of her 1st husband daily and he has been dead for more than 50 years. For me it is similar. I think of him daily, not with pain, but love and acceptance that he had a hard life and is in a better place.

    This article caught me in a place I don't go often. I enjoy NDE discussions and readings. I am much better today.
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    Quote from Davey Do
    I don't consider myself to be a Religious Person. However, having experienced an NDE, I know that something extraordinarily (compared to life) occurs when we pass over. And, I believe that the decision we make is lovingly accepted on the Other Side, as we are lovingly accepted.

    Dave
    you really had an nde, dave?

    i've been reading about this for awhile, and have found it to be very validating and comforting.
    aky, that is why i sent you those links...ultimately as a source of comfort.
    i've learned much through this website. IANDS - the most reliable source of information on NDEs.

    it is my understanding that people who are having an nde, do not always have a choice of completing death or returning to earth.
    however, those who do return to their physical state, ARE completely changed (positively), and no longer fear death.

    aky, the only constant i have taken from my reading, is that our energies move on...
    and that only physical death is real.
    i'm glad to learn you're feeling better today.

    leslie
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    Quote from leslie :-D
    you really had an nde, dave?
    Yeah. It occurred back in 1976 during a 3 week coma. I was hit head-on by a Drunk Driver while on a Motorcycle.

    I merely described the experience as a dream until I read Moody's Life After Life and other works like The Tibetan Book of the Dead. I experienced many similarities mentioned in those works.

    As far as The Decision, it was understood and, as I said before, lovingly accepted. I have to agree with you, leslie. I believe we don't always have a choice to return or not. It's almost as if the end result is understood.

    I tend to explain the feeling of being in That Place as being A Part of the Whole. That description falls short, I know, but it sums it all up for me: I was a part of, connected to... everything! It was a Great Feeling.

    As far as being changed positively, I could give you References from People's who Idea of Me is not what you would call "Positive". However, I do think of myself as a Monument to Trial and Error who Endeavors to be a Person of Integrity. Would I have been that way had I not had an NDE? Who knows? But I do think of My Experience, in the very least, as being a Catalytic One.

    I do not "fear" Death. Like Woody Allen, "I just don't want to be there when it happens". I see Death as an important part of life. And, like everything else which is important to life, I've studied it extensively. I want to be as prepared for Death as I was for my Driving Test or The State Boards. I'm ready to go at any time. All my Affairs, to My Best Intent, have been put In Order: People, Paperwork, and Property.

    Thank you for Your Question, leslie. Your Queston helped me to remember that I need to remind myself to work on these things on a Regular Basis.

    And My Very Best to AKY in Her Journey of Understanding and Peace.

    Dave
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    I believe that we know VERY little about what "life" is, particularly as related to our consciousness or soul.

    There is too much evidence that suggests that there is more to it than just a beating heart or a functioning neurological system...

    I generally suggest to the families of those near death that there is a reasonable chance that their loved one, though seemingly unresponsive, is possibly no longer confined by their "normal" auditory, visual, or other senses...that they likely can hear and see and experience them in ways previously unknown.
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