Is the Bible correct??

  1. 0 I have a mind to believe so! In fact mostly every prophecy and story in the Bible has been proven true! Just to name a bare minimum, look at Hezekiah's Water Tunnel, Noah's Ark, the prediction that there will never be peace in the middle east, and what about the noting that the earth is a sphere, and not the center of the universe upon which Galileo based his theories on the shape of the world? In contrast, there are many other books, man-written, out there that have been repeatedly proven incorrect, and yet most of today's religious energy is focused on attemptng to prove the Bible wrong, or at least in my opinion.

    I'm just trying to get some other opinions on this topic This is just my rather strong, venting opinion
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  3. Visit  NightnDay} profile page

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    From 'Knoxville, TN, US'; Joined Feb '12; Posts: 21; Likes: 36.

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  4. Visit  aknottedyarn} profile page
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    This subject can be very inflamatory.

    Personally I believe it was written by well meaning people, but people none the less. They all had their own views of what they understood as God's Word. This was in either Greek or Hebrew for the most part. Once it had been translated that changed the original meaning again.

    Oral stories are prone to changes and revisions.

    That said, I do believe in the view that it is a great guidance manual. I am like almost all who ever read it and cherry pick those things I follow. There are many things listed in the OT that I do not follow. There are some aspects that made sense in the time written but not now.

    This thread will be subject to strong opinions. Personally I look at the OT as historical fiction. This I have shared with my pastor who does not see a problem in my view. I find the idea of prognostication a bit far fetched. I do believe in free will so I would have problems with this. I am glad it brings comfort to so many. I wish more people would work from Jesus' two commandments and not get so worked up about the hidden meanings of some of the other parts.

    Sometimes a dog is just a dog. Sometimes a quote is just a quote with no hidden menaing. That does not give less importance to the dog or to the quote. It just means we cannot assign meaning because we want it there.

    I teach grief from a Christian point of view so it is not that I am anti-Bible.
  5. Visit  Tweety} profile page
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    Talking snakes? All animals in the world on a single boat during a 40 day rainstorm? A man being swallowed and living inside a whale? Virgin birth? Lifespans in the over 900 years old? (Adam).

    Nope not true.

    In my rather strong (but not interested in debating) venting opinion.
  6. Visit  azhiker96} profile page
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    I think this has been debated for centuries with no firm conclusion. I know a man who is a strong Baptist but on occasion I've seen him eat unclean animals. Not rock badgers or camels but he does like bacon. I was never comfortable with trying to discern which parts of the old testament should be followed and which parts ignored. However, I do appreciate people who treat others fairly and demonstrate love and compassion no matter how they come to hold those values.
  7. Visit  BCgradnurse} profile page
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    I think the Bible (both NT and OT) are a compilation of stories, parables, and experiences that have been gathered and passed down through the years. I think there's been a lot of revision and interpretation through the generations. I personally don't believe in prophecies, and I don't think what's written should be taken literally. There are those that feel differently and that's fine. I'm not familiar with the Quran and books of other faiths, so I can't speak to them, but maybe there's similarities in how they came to be.
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  8. Visit  imintrouble} profile page
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    If someone believes the bible is a true and accurate accounting of Christian faith, and it brings them comfort, who am I to say they're wrong?

    I just wouldn't want anybody to try and convince ME.
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  9. Visit  Not_A_Hat_Person} profile page
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    Is the Bible correct about what?

    The Bible was written by people, with biases, points of view, and slants, in many different times and places. It has some nice stories. Human nature hasn't changed much since it was written, so it works as a source of comfort or inspiration. However, the Bible is by no means perfect, and it should never be taken literally.
  10. Visit  tewdles} profile page
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    Whether or not someone believes that the Bible (or other religious writings), is either figuratively or literally correct, is a matter of faith.

    No person on this thread can answer that question for anyone other than his or herself.

    There was a time in my young life when I would have scoffed at any proclamation that the Bible is the TRUTH. Today I am much more comfortable with allowing people to express their beliefs to me without finding offense or feeling judgemental.

    No person's beliefs have ever harmed me or another...it is the actions that they pursue relevant to those beliefs that affect the world.
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  11. Visit  Tweety} profile page
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    Quote from tewdles
    No person's beliefs have ever harmed me or another...
    Wish I personally could agree with this, as it hasn't been true in my life, but won't derail the thread, but that struck a note with me.

    I certainly agree with the sentiment that what to believe as truth is between one and his/her faith and is multi-faceted and should be respected....that's core to my beliefs as a UU.
  12. Visit  nursel56} profile page
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    I feel drawn to the Unitarian philosophy, too. I have to say I've really been amused by your description of the Serpent as a "talking snake", lol. This is a good thing as my early years were steeped in old-school Catholic education very heavy on the hell thing and a lot for a 6 year old to cope with. That makes that duplicitous reptile sound almost like a Muppet.

    As for Galileo's theories, didn't the Church toss him in the pokey for heresy when he ventured forth the idea that the sun was the center of the solar system?

    I've seen a very interesting show about Nostrodamus on the History Channel - it looks like he made a lot of accurate predictions, too. Everyone seems to have predicted Hitler and Armageddon at one time or another.
  13. Visit  GrnTea} profile page
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    i dunno, i think this excerpt from the dr. laura bits says it all. (http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/drlaura.htm)

    dear dr. laura:
    thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding god's law. i have learned a great deal from you, and i try to share that knowledge with as many people as i can. when someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, i simply remind him that leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. end of debate. i do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to best follow them.

    • when i burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, i know it creates a pleasing odor for the lord (lev. 1:9). the problem is my neighbors. they claim the odor is not pleasing to them. how should i deal with this?
    • i would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in exodus 21:7. in this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
    • i know that i am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (lev. 15:19-24). the problem is, how do i tell? i have tried asking, but most women take offense.
    • lev. 25:44 states that i may buy slaves from the nations that are around us. a friend of mine claims that this applies to mexicans but not canadians. can you clarify?
    • i have a neighbor who insists on working on the sabbath. exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. am i morally obligated to kill him myself?
    • a friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. i don't agree. can you settle this?
    • lev. 21:20 states that i may not approach the altar of god if i have a defect in my sight. i have to admit that i wear reading glasses. does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

    i know you have studied these things extensively, so i am confident you can help. thank you again for reminding us that god's word is eternal and unchanging.
    sharpeimom, weemsp, PMFB-RN, and 12 others like this.
  14. Visit  tewdles} profile page
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    Quote from Tweety
    Wish I personally could agree with this, as it hasn't been true in my life, but won't derail the thread, but that struck a note with me.

    I certainly agree with the sentiment that what to believe as truth is between one and his/her faith and is multi-faceted and should be respected....that's core to my beliefs as a UU.
    You are right Tweety...people can hurt us emotionally with their beliefs...
    Many people have been emotionally and spiritually harmed by churches during their life-times.

    I hope that you understand that my point was that it doesn't matter if the **(insert religion of choice) and I disagree, that disagreement doesn't hurt either of us...UNLESS one of us acts upon it. The truth is that even speaking a judgemental or hateful thing is taking an action, no different than choosing to take a physical action in some sense.

    In my faith, there is value in listening, considering our words carefully, and remaining silent when necessary.

    I am sorry that you have been hurt by the words of others.
    sharpeimom, leslie :-D, Medic2RN, and 4 others like this.
  15. Visit  laughing weasel} profile page
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    It is a rule in debate that you cannot prove a negative. If I say there are unicorns living in my backyard ridden by leprechauns then you cannot prove I am wrong. (Of course they are invisible and do not leave tracks). While I believe in Jesus, its his fan club that disturbs me. I believe that the bible should be taken with a grain of salt and realize that the books in it are 3000 years old and then some. You do not speak to an adult as you do too a child and you let some mistakes slide in order to get the important parts across. Times and society have changed and the important parts of the message have stayed the same. love one another eat healthy food,(pork was very unhealthy in those days) listen to your conscious. The fine details like do not beat a woman with a stick bigger than your finger and punish every code violation with death not so much. I personally have acted on hunches that I have had and it has saved my life at least twice. I can't control it or prove it but I am very much convinced of the power and veracity of prophecy.
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