Is the Bible correct?? - page 2

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I have a mind to believe so! In fact mostly every prophecy and story in the Bible has been proven true! Just to name a bare minimum, look at Hezekiah's Water Tunnel, Noah's Ark, the prediction that there will never be peace in... Read More


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    i dunno, i think this excerpt from the dr. laura bits says it all. (http://www.positiveatheism.org/writ/drlaura.htm)

    dear dr. laura:
    thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding god's law. i have learned a great deal from you, and i try to share that knowledge with as many people as i can. when someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, i simply remind him that leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. end of debate. i do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the other specific laws and how to best follow them.

    • when i burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, i know it creates a pleasing odor for the lord (lev. 1:9). the problem is my neighbors. they claim the odor is not pleasing to them. how should i deal with this?
    • i would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as it suggests in exodus 21:7. in this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
    • i know that i am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (lev. 15:19-24). the problem is, how do i tell? i have tried asking, but most women take offense.
    • lev. 25:44 states that i may buy slaves from the nations that are around us. a friend of mine claims that this applies to mexicans but not canadians. can you clarify?
    • i have a neighbor who insists on working on the sabbath. exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. am i morally obligated to kill him myself?
    • a friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an abomination (lev. 10:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. i don't agree. can you settle this?
    • lev. 21:20 states that i may not approach the altar of god if i have a defect in my sight. i have to admit that i wear reading glasses. does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?

    i know you have studied these things extensively, so i am confident you can help. thank you again for reminding us that god's word is eternal and unchanging.
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    Quote from Tweety
    Wish I personally could agree with this, as it hasn't been true in my life, but won't derail the thread, but that struck a note with me.

    I certainly agree with the sentiment that what to believe as truth is between one and his/her faith and is multi-faceted and should be respected....that's core to my beliefs as a UU.
    You are right Tweety...people can hurt us emotionally with their beliefs...
    Many people have been emotionally and spiritually harmed by churches during their life-times.

    I hope that you understand that my point was that it doesn't matter if the **(insert religion of choice) and I disagree, that disagreement doesn't hurt either of us...UNLESS one of us acts upon it. The truth is that even speaking a judgemental or hateful thing is taking an action, no different than choosing to take a physical action in some sense.

    In my faith, there is value in listening, considering our words carefully, and remaining silent when necessary.

    I am sorry that you have been hurt by the words of others.
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    It is a rule in debate that you cannot prove a negative. If I say there are unicorns living in my backyard ridden by leprechauns then you cannot prove I am wrong. (Of course they are invisible and do not leave tracks). While I believe in Jesus, its his fan club that disturbs me. I believe that the bible should be taken with a grain of salt and realize that the books in it are 3000 years old and then some. You do not speak to an adult as you do too a child and you let some mistakes slide in order to get the important parts across. Times and society have changed and the important parts of the message have stayed the same. love one another eat healthy food,(pork was very unhealthy in those days) listen to your conscious. The fine details like do not beat a woman with a stick bigger than your finger and punish every code violation with death not so much. I personally have acted on hunches that I have had and it has saved my life at least twice. I can't control it or prove it but I am very much convinced of the power and veracity of prophecy.
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    Personally, I think those finger sized sticks hurt plenty...lot's of whip in them.
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    Quote from Tweety
    Talking snakes? All animals in the world on a single boat during a 40 day rainstorm? A man being swallowed and living inside a whale? Virgin birth? Lifespans in the over 900 years old? (Adam).

    Nope not true.

    In my rather strong (but not interested in debating) venting opinion.
    With all due respect Tweety, Jonah's tomb was just found...
    http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/...ntcmp=features
    I'm not challenging your beliefs, but rather defending mine
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    Quote from NightnDay
    With all due respect Tweety, Jonah's tomb was just found...Ancient 'bone box' called oldest Christian artifact | Fox NewsI'm not challenging your beliefs, but rather defending mine
    A tomb of someone who "might" be named Jonah, and that has what "could" be Christian symbols on it that include a fish, a very common symbol on funereal items has been found. Many of the things that you feel prove the Bible are common to many other religions' holy writings, to common myths, legends and folklore.Is the Bible "true"? Why does it matter? Either one believes or does not.....that is what faith is about.
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    Quote from NightnDay
    With all due respect Tweety, Jonah's tomb was just found...
    Ancient 'bone box' called oldest Christian artifact | Fox News
    I'm not challenging your beliefs, but rather defending mine

    It's o.k. to challenge my beliefs, I don't mind, but I usually do not engage Christians in Bible or other types of discussions of faith.

    I still don't believe Jonah lived inside a whale just because they found some ancient articfacts with a fish on it that might have been his tomb.

    He probably did exist and a myth was written. I also believe that Jesus was a real human being, and he was a great teacher. That's where it ends for me.
    Last edit by Tweety on Apr 21, '12
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    Its a lost cause to debate religion with non-believers, just like you couldn't convince me you had a unicorn in your yard without providing the proof! It is a highly personal thing, and the Bible says that those who don't believe have "blinders" on, and are unable to recognize the truth because of the forces that are on earth today. (Satan).
    When I finally became a Christian in my 30's, I questioned EVERYTHING, and needed proof behind what I believe. I was not going to allow myself to be blindly led by faith alone and to believe in a bunch of fairy tales. I prayed and prayed and studied and studied everything I could get my hands on to prove to myself that God is real. Well, guess what? The Lord answered my prayers and was able to fully convince me by personally proving his existence to me. He also helped me to understand that not all of the Bible is to be taken literally. Many portions of the old testament teach with stories, and not reality. Today, I am completely at peace with my faith, what the Bible says, and I know that I know that God is REAL. You just gotta find him on your own terms, no one can ever debate you about it and actually convince you.
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    I am Baptist, and yes, Baptists eat bacon. Baptists are not prohibited from eating pork. Actually, we can eat whatever we want, except other humans, I suppose!
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    I only believe in the Torah, that is the books of the Bible that were written in Hebrew. When God spoke to Moses He spoke in Hebrew. I keep God's commandments, all 613 of them.


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