Informal discussion with all the pro choice nurses out there... | allnurses

Informal discussion with all the pro choice nurses out there...

  1. 3 I'm just taking an informal poll to see how many pro-choice nurses there are out there. I am curious how many replies I get.

    I don't want to hear your pro-life viewpoint, you are not going to change my mind. I was abused and threatened by a pro-life celebrity and his fan boys all day on twitter yesterday. I'm in no mood to hear your opinions. I heard every crazy opinion imaginable. He even called me a baby hater and a murderer (even though I've never had an abortion). Worst part is, I like the show he was on. Oh well.

    Why are you pro-choice? What is your argument? What do you think about what's going on in Texas?
  2. Visit  sarahbellum profile page

    About sarahbellum

    From 'St. Louis, MO'; Joined Jan '06; Posts: 67; Likes: 96.

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  3. Visit  elkpark profile page
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    Pro-choice here, always have been (since the pre-Roe days), and always will be.
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  4. Visit  sarahbellum profile page
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    My grandmother was a lifelong member of NARAL. She lost one of her best friends in the 1950s to an illegal abortion. Sepsis. I cried yesterday when they called her a liar. I shouldn't have let the trolls get to me.
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  5. Visit  elkpark profile page
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    Quote from sarahbellum
    I shouldn't have let the trolls get to me.
    ^^ That. Best wishes ...
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  6. Visit  Meriwhen profile page
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    Moving to the Break Room.
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  7. Visit  TopazLover profile page
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    I am pro-choice. My belief is that life starts as the Bible says, with the breath of life. There are many situations that I see that might be reasons for a woman to consider termination.

    I think the government, specifically legislators, need to keep out of health care decisions. Many of them have opened their mouths and proved they do not know what they are talking about and therefore have been making uninformed decisions.

    Medical, and specifically surgical decisions, need to be made between the patient and the doctor. I do not believe we need to have laws as to what procedures can and cannot be done when these laws are written and passed with poor if any understanding of the subject matter.
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  8. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Quote from sarahbellum
    My grandmother was a lifelong member of NARAL. She lost one of her best friends in the 1950s to an illegal abortion. Sepsis. I cried yesterday when they called her a liar. I shouldn't have let the trolls get to me.
    ((HUGS))remember you don't know these folks....who cares what they think.

    This is one of those polarizing subjects and you will have pro-life nurses as well. Personally, I am pro-choice but against late term/partial birth unless medically necessary.

    I'm with AKY
    aknottedyarn I am pro-choice. My belief is that life starts as the Bible says, with the breath of life. There are many situations that I see that might be reasons for a woman to consider termination.

    I think the government, specifically legislators, need to keep out of health care decisions. Many of them have opened their mouths and proved they do not know what they are talking about and therefore have been making uninformed decisions.

    Medical, and specifically surgical decisions, need to be made between the patient and the doctor. I do not believe we need to have laws as to what procedures can and cannot be done when these laws are written and passed with poor if any understanding of the subject matter.

  9. Visit  tntrn profile page
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    Quote from aknottedyarn

    I think the government, specifically legislators, need to keep out of health care decisions. Many of them have opened their mouths and proved they do not know what they are talking about and therefore have been making uninformed decisions.

    .
    Does this include politicians like Mayor Bloomburg and others who want to control what we eat or what we don't?
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  10. Visit  TopazLover profile page
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    The subject was a question for those who are pro-choice. The question is a good one, I think. Why are people who are pro-choice; Pro- choice?

    Actually I think we have the names all mixed up. All of the people I know who believe in a woman's right to choose also believe in support of life throughout the life span. This includes support with WIC program, SNAP, job training, child care assistance and a living wage. They are also anti death penalty, and against money for corporations than takes food from children, the elderly and inform. To me this sounds like pro-life, not pro-fetus, or as some have called it, pro pre-birth.

    If we limit the discussion to pro abortion there are still many facets that people can and cannot agree about. Some will argue only for the life of the mother can it be legal. Others include rape and/or incest. There are time limits that some feel strongly about while some others are OK with whatever the doctor is comfortable. Certainly the case in Philadelphia where the doctor was guilty of murder as the line of viability had been crossed.

    I look forward to an interesting discussion about our personal parameters for those of us who are not against every termination. I do hope those who are anti abortion do not hijack this thread. It is a great ethics question deserving of all views by those who are willing to discuss rather than try to change the subject or lecture against abortion.
  11. Visit  VivaLasViejas profile page
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    Since when did AN go back to high school and exclude everyone who's not in our little clique?

    If you bring up a subject, you have to be prepared for ALL points of view. I'm sparing you mine because I've already made it clear where I stand in other discussions about this topic---NOT because you're telling people who disagree with you that they can't participate.

    'Nuff said.
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  12. Visit  tewdles profile page
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    hmmm

    On a personal level I believe that all abortion should be avoided when possible.

    Women with an unwanted pregnancy should have all of their options available to them in this free society.
    Whether or not the fetus is a living human being with the same rights of neonate or other living human is a debate that is often deeply rooted in our religion and faith, as it is for me. I believe it is a sin. I have sinned.

    I also do not believe that we can or should legislate based upon our religious ideals.
    In this country, it is legal to terminate a pregnancy within certain parameters.
    Many people's religious and moral values prevent them from supporting this activity.
    Many other people's religious and moral values have no issue with this activity.

    In my view, we should decide individually and pray for those whom we fear are walking on the wrong side of that issue.
    If we want to be politically active we should seek to change the federal law without standing between the woman, her doctor, the man involved (if appropriate), and the right to choose abortion.

    I believe we should be promoting healthy sexual activity with lots of emphasis on preventing disease, pregnancy, and heartbreak.
    I think we should care for the children who are born into difficult situations.
    I think we should be expanding Head Start and SNAP.
    I think we should consider expanding our government funded public education to include 2 years of community or technical college.

    Government on the federal and state levels need to stay out of the women's uterus's and nurseries.
    IMHO
  13. Visit  Esme12 profile page
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    Quote from VivaLasViejas
    Since when did AN go back to high school and exclude everyone who's not in our little clique?

    If you bring up a subject, you have to be prepared for ALL points of view. I'm sparing you mine because I've already made it clear where I stand in other discussions about this topic---NOT because you're telling people who disagree with you that they can't participate.

    'Nuff said.
    I don't think that was the OP's intent....I think she was just a little beat up that's all. That is how I interpreted it......I agree with you that the "forum" be open to all opinions and I like a good debate....as long as they are respectful and polite.
  14. Visit  TopazLover profile page
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    I really think all the OP wanted was to hear that she was not alone in her beliefs. Anyone can participate in any thread. One thing I learned a long time ago when my DSon went to jail for his support of anti-abortion activities is that one does not have to agree with a position in order to support the person. The OP had been called a baby killer. It happens to be one of the common terms used against those of us who do not oppose abortion in all cases. It is just as filthy a word as the N word, or the C word.

    The OP came here seeking solice. It is sad that as nurses, especially in the ethics forum, could not find some way to be supportive of her. Instead name calling of "high schoolish" and using a poster's statement to try to change the subject to some other political issue was raised.

    I feel bad that we have come to the point where a person's desire to decrease her pain in a positive way was turned into something less than supportive. If a person is pro-life is it impossible to say "I am sorry you were called names." "Not every person who believes in the sanctity of life has to be hurtful." and leave it at that?

    We all know that most threads pro/con abortion get shut down for reason or die a death of their own. It is a tough subject.
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